I remember hearing about the Goodyear plant in Arizona during WWII manufacturing Consolidated Coronado cockpits, and how each one had to be leak tested for 3 hours before being sent to San Diego for final assembly. Of course, like most wartime factories, women did most of the work.

Great read, Tyler! I’ve literally never heard of this place. Seems like a pretty cool place to work, though...

You’re implying that people from Manitoba or Siberia never die in bad weather car accidents, though...

Watch the flood of Seahawks fans bitch about any article that doesn’t glorify the Seahawks.

The fans aren’t required to be there, though. The players are.

3rd series, not 3rd quarter.

Adios friend, I think?

See elsewhere.

Now you’re talking like a Russian sock puppet.

These are not zero-sum goals.

Again, this is a separate issue. And as you point out, given that our “socialist” AG Holder did nothing, short of weakly penalizing a few financial firms, it’s not like we’re growing into a socialist paradise.

I’d like to specifically apologize. You have a real POV, and it’s worthy of discussion. I didn’t recognize your name, but we really do get a lot of Russian sock puppets and I hope you will excuse my paranoia.

At the time, the F-22 was viewed as a high performance air superiority fighter against a near-peer state, which necessarily didn’t have air to ground capabilities, which looked pointless and ridiculously expensive in the Pax Americana age. The US would only be engaging in policing actions in places like the Near East,…

Well, you never get anything out of an alliance until you “need” it. That’s kind of the point of an alliance. By that logic, we didn’t need NATO throughout all of the Cold War because the Soviets never attacked us.

Again, not really relevant to this discussion.

Yo. I’m not Ronald Reagan decrying “welfare queens” here. This is a totally separate debate. And, again, it’s better than them buying foreign weapon systems.

Well, you’re not exactly dropping it, but let’s roll with it here. Believe it or not, I agree with you on Bibi, aid to Israel and Egypt, and Israel’s shameless behavior in its colonies. But I view the aid as sunk cost as of right now, so as long as we’re going to give them the money anyway (which we must, legally, but…

You’re talking about removing 8 F-22s from combat readiness, of which there are only about 100-120 or so right now?

Addressed elsewhere in the thread. Either way, the money ends up here. If you’re taking issue with the ridiculous amounts of foreign aid Israel receives, that’s a different debate for a different time and place.

This seems like an odd time to be asking this, given Russia’s behavior. It might be different if you were talking, say, 2006.