What’s wrong with the Corolla? It’s just slightly larger, which makes it more usable day-to-day, especially in the USA where the CR-V is now considered small. The Corolla hatch isn’t some hulking behemoth, it’s a compact car, same size as the GTI.

I’m just saying not to blindly look at a 1995 XLT and compare it to a 2020 XLT. There are some that make sense. I am going to copy and past another reply I had typed out and calculated:

This is not true. It did not destroy the bottom end of the used car market. The recession, which caused consumers to put 25 million fewer vehicles into circulation, is what destroyed the bottom end of the used car market. This is a lazy argument that gets disproven time and time and time again.

You can’t compare XLT back in 1998 to XLT today. In the 1990's, a mid level trim is equipped more poorly than a base model today. You couldn’t expect things like ABS or air conditioning in a base model back then. Even taking out Bluetooth and stuff, an XLT today is equipped more like a 1995 Rolls Royce than a 1995…

That isn’t the auto manufacturers’ fault. However, car prices have not risen above the pace of inflation.

That already WAS a requirement with Cash for Clunkers.

You can find any number of statistics to back up that auto prices have stayed flat. Go look a Corvette, or Accord, or anything. The MSRP when adjusted for inflation has stayed the same in the past 30 years.

Um, those prices have kept up exactly with inflation. You just disproved your statement with that link. And you can even go back further, just to try to give your argument more of a chance, and you will still fail.

Counterpoint: You’re using a $35,000 car as an example, but no one needs a $35,000 car. We went from Camrys and Accords being perfectly reasonable vehicles, to needing to trade in the Grand Cherokee for at least an Atlas or Suburban because they’re planning for their first kid. Go buy a $25,000 car and keep it 7…

The 2020 Civic is about a million times more likely to save you in an accident, rather than the 20 year old one which practically tries to kill you. Add in emissions, pedestrian crash ratings, etc. etc. There’s no way to “tweak” a B16 to make it emissions compliant for 2020.

Nah, stop enabling them. Allow them to hit rock bottom. Put controls in place. If they want your help, then it absolutely comes with strings attached. Only replace the motor if they pay down the running truck’s balance to less than it’s worth, and trade it in to reduce their debt load to something with 35mpg like that…

I am not “proposing a workaround.” You were wrong that you need the title in hand with the lien released before you sell the car. You can sell the car AT THE POINT of the lien being released. If I were to sell a financed vehicle today, the only “inconvenience” is that the sale would have to be taken care of at the…

The worst case scenario is not unlikely. That’s what happens. Best case scenario is that they “only” screw up your credit by having a repo on your report, plus an account in collections. This is literally how it happens every day.

And to add to my last post, here is an Autotrader listing of all 2wd Wranglers for sale, 2005 and newer, in the United States:

My source?! My source is that I existed in 2008, and so did the 2wd Wranglers, and I saw them, and so did everyone else, except for you it seems. And there is tons of evidence that still exists online if you care to look. Is this an attempt at trolling? Go look at discussion boards, go do a google search. Here is a US…

The difference is that they have a contract in place to allow them to do this. They have a bugout clause in place. They got to pay that $10 million penalty, and to walk away without incurring any other charges.

Were you there between 2008 and 2010? Because that’s when they existed. Here in the USA.

I thought the theory was that they were for people that wanted a cheaper Wrangler that was better on fuel during the recession.

During the PREVIOUS recession, for like 2 years starting in 2008, Jeep thought that since most people don’t use the Jeep’s 4wd, they would sell a model that was cheaper, plus that got a bit better fuel mileage. They were wrong, and it was a relative sales failure. The only reason that it’s a good choice today is if…

I will be buying a used car if the bubble that has hit enthusiast vehicles finally has burst. For example, if I had bought a new leftover base model, 2wd Wrangler in 2010, I could have gotten one for like $18,000. I recently toyed with the idea of picking one up so that I can put my own Dana 60 axles, multispeed transf…