You say that, but we can look back at the last Fusion redesign a few years ago. Yes, it increased sales, but not enough, even at its heyday. As far as the Expedition, have you not been paying attention to the news? It doesn’t matter how many they sell. It’s about profit margins. The Expedition is printing money. The…

Your comment could not be more asinine. What does that even mean?

Profit margins, homie. Ford could drop the price of a loaded Fusion to $12,000 and get 3 million per year sold, but it isn’t about sales numbers. It’s about the net profit on those sales. Even at its heyday, it was a shadow of the sales numbers of the Accord or Camry, and those cars weren’t as good, yet making more…

Your hot take has no bearing on the hand over fist sales that the model is experiencing. I agree with you that WE wouldn’t buy one, but overall, PEOPLE are buying them like hotcakes. Which just means that the overwhelming majority of new car buyers are judging by significantly different metrics than you or I. Subaru…

The OP was talking about the decision to cut cars mostly out of the lineup, which is a reference to Ford. We’re talking about Ford right now. You either can’t keep up, or you refuse to admit when you’re wrong. I’m leaning towards the latter.

Yup. You might consider the Mini, or Fiat 500 as well, etc. The Honda Fit is actually a decent car.

You shouldn’t have made false statements.

Ford didn’t get bailed out.

Many companies HAVE earned that reputation, however. And for any other company, the antics from Honda and Toyota that have caused some of their models to have issues would have put them out of their misery. But until the end of time, people will buy Civics, Accords, Corollas, and Camrys until the end of time, no…

Started with a Mazda3. Rewarded myself when I paid off student loans 2 years ago, and picked up an NC Miata for what I consider a very good price. I’ve only added coilovers and a roll bar (protection roll bar, to be able to run on track. It still has the stock sway bars).

You, and the other 2 people in the US that want that? They will politically tell you to get in line with all of the other vocal minority that don’t translate into profits, such as the people that require manual transmission brown station wagons. Go buy a razor thin profit margin Versa and be happy.

Read it and weep, buddy. The 2009 Civic very well may be the best vehicle you’ve ever owned; I have no frame of reference to know whether that’s saying much or not. But, if you had looked at its competitors, you would have found even better vehicles out there.

It’s EPA rated at 40mpg highway. 33mpg combined. I’ll say it again: be honest with yourself, and with us. If you’re getting 46 with that car, you’d be getting well over 30 in an Escape, so it doesn’t make sense to compare your particular experience to EPA mileage. Also, your particular commute is not representative at…

A sedan and a crossover are built on the same platform. An Escape is basically just a Ford Focus, built to be more upright. So it isn’t that they aren’t trying with sedans. It’s that they realized that you can take a TINY fuel mileage penalty for weight and aerodynamics, and the return is twice the cargo space, easier…

I’m not celebrating anything. I’m taking an honest look at why things are like they are.

Because no matter how good Ford makes the car, or how rave reviews it gets, or how reliable it is, people are going to buy a Camry because it’s a Camry. People are going to buy an Accord because it’s an Accord. Recalls? Who cares. Lethal airbags? Eh, I’ve seen worse. Transmissions that are guaranteed to fail? Doesn’t…

The Ridgeline is a Pilot with the back cut out; no one is cross shopping it with full size pickups. It is its own little niche market segment. And the Tundra competes because the pickup truck segment prints money. Profit margins are astronomical.

I pulled it from the window sticker, skippy. Because for every person like you that gets above, there’s are 3 drivers that live in New York, or LA, or Houston and get at or under the rated mileage because they’re driving in heavy traffic, on surface streets, stop and go driving, etc.

Okay, so either because of your driving style, or your daily route, or your hypermiling experiment, or whatever reason, you are getting 40% over the rated average economy of 33mpg for your car. Keep the discussion honest. You could also drive any other car in the same manner and get at least 30% over the rated fuel…

You’re setting arbitrary results of what makes a “good” sedan or SUV. I’d say that they are great at both. They have the ease of entry, the comfort, and the storage capacity of an SUV, but they have the ride quality and the fuel economy of a car. You say it’s the worst of both worlds, but step back and take an honest…