I will obvs defer to your expert analysis of what is and what is not shade, but Caitlyn Jenner has been a Jenner all her life, she’s got four Jenner kids with non-K names from two previous ex-wives, and she’s now divorced from Kris. She’s very much not a Kardashian. I mean of course she’s the father of 2 K-branded…

Thank you! This was my exact thought.

Marc Jacobs gives me uncontrollable yawns.

Yup. The most obnoxious people, loudly beating the I Heart NY drum, who sneer at other locales are almost always transplants. I say this as someone who grew up in a NYC suburb and has experienced one too many of these self-righteous assholes.

As a native Kentuckian (who once even spent a year working with George Clooney’s sister), let me politely invite you to go fuck yourself.

Maybe he had an off night. He does seem earnest. But he also seemed overly ... IDK, magical about his celebrity? Like he thought I was gonna DIE when he came to my door. And I’m like, I know exactly who you are, and I still only wanna sleep with Tommy Stinson and not some dork from some HBO male-insecurity shitshow,…

Makes me crazy too, for exactly the reason you say. I watched bands drive up in their crappy vans from all over and load their equipment themselves down three stories, and then their “friends” show up not wanting to pay an entrance fee that was the price of a beer. Cheap-ass mofos.

Stamps are terrible! Don’t get me wrong, it’s not like I’m mad at anyone for disliking stamps. But it made my job 100x easier to give top-of-hand stamps. Then I didn’t have to stop anyone, because I could see their stamps clearly (unless they wore gloves, which no one really did). The precious wrist-stamp folks had to…

Me too! I love his big brown eyes, and he’s tall and skinny but in that big-skinny way. Maybe I should have tried to sleep with him too. What’s wrong with me?? I spent two years in that godforsaken place and I slept with like, a heavy-metal drummer and someone’s alt-folk ex-husband (latter: bad move).

OK, the Lukas Haas story is really boring. I was working the main space for some show that was insane. I had to stamp hands, and I needed to see the stamp when people reentered the space from the bathroom or outside smoking cigs, etc. You’d be surprised at how many people get angry about having to raise their fucking…

I worked the door at a nightclub a long time ago. Sometimes I worked another door within the club itself (this was a rather large club). One day I’m working the basement space, and Adrian Griener comes up and gives me that dopey smile of his and clearly expects to be let in for free. Sorry, dude, I like brown eyes…

I guess I wasn’t wanting the model to be asked because I expected her to be a truth teller. I wanted her to be asked because I feel like models bear the brunt of the worst the fashion industry has to offer, and they aren’t responsible for these transgressions. I just wanted this particular model to be named by people…

The makeup is still YSL, so it’s all good there. But Hedi Slimane quite notoriously changed the fashion house name, logo, branding to Saint Laurent Paris. He’s kind of a douche, honestly, and I don’t even think he’s that talented as a designer. He is an amazing stylist though and I covet a lot of his clothes because I…

I don’t doubt that you or your family member know their shit. Please know I’m not trying to be rude or condescending. But in the fashion press, anyone who knows their shit calls it Saint Laurent (or to be really pedantic, Saint Laurent Paris). Because that is correct. And calling it YSL is kind of the mark of someone…

Wait—did you actually tag this story under “Anorexia”? You don’t know if Kiki Willems has anorexia. How is that in any way OK? You’re diagnosing people now at Jezebel? Can I expect to see all matter of mental illness tags soon?

I totally agree. We don’t have to burn Kris down to build Caitlyn up.

PS You two rule. Having a thoughtful, compassionate discussion rather than flaming/getting defensive. Kudos to you both. Were it cocktail hour, I’d raise a glass to you.

Thank you Mo, when you explain it in “Kardashian mode” it actually makes sense, because those birds are allllways comparing each other to who’s prettiest. And then it does seem like a family joke.

That’s sad Mo because I am always impressed with your comments. I was hoping we could have a discussion because I really don’t think that IG comment is funny. It’s not a slight on you, you’re not the one who said it.