Yup, I totally get that (I think I said something to that effect at the end of my comment) but I was interested interested in hearing some perspectives. Definitely was not criticizing.

This was meant as a much more general trans question that just stemmed from thinking about this case, not necessarily specific to this particular case as I am completely unaware as to this child's gender identity and because, as you said, a child's reasoning might not be as nuanced.

On the bus the other day I saw a kid about 4-6 years old absolutely fawning over his maybe 5-8 month old little brother. Giving him hugs, kisses, trying to help him play with a few toys the older boy had on him. I was a little sad to see their mother kind of discourage him/get annoyed, though it was understandable…

Shiloh not being gender conforming and requesting an "opposite gendered" name (so possibly trans, although I don't want to assume since there is a spectrum for these things) has brought to mind a kind of inane question.

Yeah. I may wonder about uneven or extreme enforcement (not extreme as in "too much" but extreme as in "choosing big ticket punishments while still doing every day spoiling") but with this limited amount of information I don't know a whole lot. If this is hurting their kids in any way it would be holistically with a…

But if their adolescent brains can't process that they did something bad

Who said anything about being let off? Being tried in juvenile court and sentenced to incarceration in juvenile facilities is not being let off. I don't think you know how the courts work. Now you're just saying things that no one is even talking about.

Yes, and I think that goes against the rationale for a juvenile court existing in the first place. I would argue that in pretty much all circumstances for all crime juveniles should be tried in juvenile court, I might make exceptions for (but not advocate) those 17 or older since by sentencing (if found guilty) they…

You can keep on responding that they understand what murder is and what the consequences are, but that in no way counters what I am saying because I am not and never have been arguing that they don't. Because they do understand.

I give preteens credit for preteen brains. Not 5 year old brains, not 25 year old brains. Adult situations does not make your brain a fully developed adult brain. While various environmental factors impact brain development, there aren't specific adult actions (sex, violence, etc) that increase brain development.

I love how I explicitly say that kids can understand murder is wrong and do understand the consequences and the counter to me is "But they know murder is wrong! They understand the consequences!"

I am not saying impulses as in spur-of-the-moment actions. I mean doing things because you want to despite the negative consequences.

I'm pretty sure you missed everything I said. It's not about them not knowing it's bad or knowing the consequences. It has 0% to do with knowing it's bad. Nothing. It's about solid, biological differences between a child brain and adult brain and how they act on the things in their brain. Murder doesn't advance the…

The idea that kids can't face adult trial because they don't know what they are doing is wrong is a really frustrating misconception. If you don't understand what you did was wrong you are not supposed to be tried, you are supposed to get treatment in a mental health facility, child OR adult.

There isn't much to elaborate on because both these oppressions affect a lot of different aspects of life so it's hard to pin down a "this is how they are different."

I imagine that this is exactly how it feels to be a person of color.

I suppose neutral was the wrong word, complex is a better one. But I think the spirit of the original comment is still applicable in this context as well.

Oh man this for sure. I have enjoyed Swift's success for a number of reasons and am a fan, it's utterly depressing that she's the only one that has gotten this attention and it's pretty obvious why.

Kinjaaaaaa

I would agree with you on your first part that obviously all our actions have some sort of impact, but usually they have multiple impacts so it's kind of useless to try to rule MOST actions as either feminist or unfeminist.