GM could build the best mid-sized sedan for their next generation and it still wouldn't be the best seller because they have a well-earned shitty reputation. GM needs a winning streak in the perception game so that they can create a reputation that sells cars.

Unfortunately all the mid-size pickups are like that now. The best way to get around it is to just get a manual transmission like I did. Too bad you can't do that with the V6 in the Colorado/Canyon.

I think the numbers are pretty impressive. This gets better MPG than an MX5 and it's the shape of a bread loaf with 4wd.

I'm in the market for a 'smaller' pickup right now and am currently looking at a Frontier. I want a vehicle that I can use to throw a bike in the back and quickly get to the trails. I live in Boston so the size matters.

Maybe if we all put our heads together we can come up with a few more reasons beyond plywood and gravel... Trash runs, yard sales, mountain bikes, skis, furniture shopping, appliances, tall plants, small bits of plywood and gravel...

Surprisingly my NC seemed to have more clearance than my wife's GTI.

Here's how it really went:

I considered and drove both before buying the soft top.

I've owned a 2008 NC in Boston for the last 4 years (just sold it last weekend). The car has such good balance that it makes it a really predictable and fun snow car when fitted with snow tires. Also the taller sidewalls of the snow tires helps smooth out the ride on potholed city streets.

Maybe they should just dump the cars.

Odin Lloyd sleeps with the Fish oils...

My opinion of the car hasn't changed because 100k of my fantasy money is just as valuable as 400k of my fantasy money.

After reading most of these comments I'm beginning to think Honda was on the right track getting out of the 'fun car' market. Honda finally puts forward an insane hot hatch and everyone picks it apart. You're a bunch of insatiable little douchebags.