Clinton voted 97% the same as Bernie. She’s not far left but she’s left of center, more than Obama or Biden.

This claim is always countered, by the way, with “But the Iraq vote!” Yes. True. But it doesn’t erase the percentage nor consider the days after 9/11 for the Senator from New York. Basically, it’s an…

There is a far left, and they represent themselves as “spoiler” voters, mainly taking potshots at the rest of progressives instead of pulling together to change things. I’ve watched them do this for at least 16 years, actually. It’s fundamentally stupid ego-voting that leaves us with a mostly conservative government…

To be honest, this has been going on definitely since 2000. Sixteen years of “We’re the real progressives”while literally stopping progressive movement forward. What probably really needs to happen is we need to get non-voters, who are registered dems the hell off their asses on election day so that we don’t have to…

I agree. I’ve even been accused of “red-baiting” by far left when discussing the really damned obvious and serious problem with Trump and Russia in regards to the election.

My understanding is they love this because it gives them the chance to undo all the good FDR did. They are trying to kill all the reforms made since WWII. Think about that. They’d rather risk losing our entire country than give up that opportunity.

I actively hate them. We gotta get them out of office because this…

Really good fanfic I would read again and am bummed we aren’t getting on the regular.

No. As in Glenn Greenwald.

I’m responding to you.

I’m not for Ellison.

Look, I read the dog whistles from alt left loud and clear when they said “no identity politics.” I’m aware, as a woman, allowing them to take over the party would mean it would no longer represent me. That’s what I see.

Again, I’m willing to share, but the idea the party is a mess is bullshit.…

So, you approve of having sex with children then? Because that’s what we’re talking about being the big possible secret tapes.

Literally none of those things are my argument. ::shrugging:: I’m sorry you can think critically. What a shame.

Oh look! What a beautiful strawman.

Congratulations on lying to yourself to miss the actual argument, which you clearly couldn’t win.

I’m talking about progressives when I’m discussing sharing, not conservatives. Republicans sold our country out for a song recently. Fuck those guys.

Smart powerful women are never popular among the mediocre dudes that usually surround them.

Anyone that meets with Rexy is quite questionable at this point.

I think of that hideous asshole Sarandon as the Entitled Fucking Idiot. She can stick her soapbox up her ass.

Yeah, I’m as old as you, and a spy boat this close is highly irregular in these times.

Dems are NOT like old time Republicans either. I have a strong memory of what’s what myself there, Jim with all the numbers after your name.

The left would never become the alt right. That’s entirely a pile of shit. If you look, left and left center are literally the only ones raising the alarm.

Further, the alt left agrees with a LOT that the alt right stands for, largely because it is full of sexist, somewhat racist dudes. I’d be watching your de facto…

No, not irony.

I’m pretty sure we can gauge, roughly, how much voter suppression occurred (a lot) using those polls and the vote against each other. Just shameful stuff.