I did defend myself in my post. You got dismissed because you ignored my points and replied with one sentence.

Maybe if some established unions showed any interest in my profession, greatly increasing the chances of success, then I’d support them. But they haven’t, perhaps because they don’t think they can offer enough benefits to convince us to join.

Yep, didn’t bother engaging with any of my other points. Dimissed.

I just looked at those campaigns.  None of them are in my profession, and things like “fight for $15/hr” are not relevant to my profession.  My state’s minimum wage exceeds that, and I am certain that people in my profession are making quite a bit more than $15/hr anyway.

I am neither a grad student, nor do I work in academia.  Stop making assumptions.

If established unions have so much trouble unionizing new professions, how likely is a brand new union going to be successful? All the recent unionization efforts that I’ve seen succeed are existing unions moving into new professions.

See, this clearly explicates why it might make sense for the union to take this position.  It’s amazing how this is much more effective at changing my perspective than insulting me is!

Right?  

I know what unions have done throughout American history to get protections like the 40 hour workweek, and the advent of OSHA. But what have they done for me lately? I support the UAW for negotiating for a 32 hour workweek for 40 hours pay; however, their tentative deal with Ford does not include this provision. If…

Since ApeWhoHathNoNa… is in the grays - and he deserves to be for saying “Fuck off, bootlicker,” and calling me a “credulous moron,” - I’m replying to myself.

The problem is that people won’t see him as a corporate bootlicker, but rather as pro-union and also obnoxious. A lot of folks who are just working stiffs but don’t support unions, because they find this sort of rhetoric as anywhere from too-black-and-white, or veiled threats of violence if you don’t show “solidarity…

It’s not affected by Fox, but people’s opinions are definitely affected by some strident pro-labor folks being obnoxious, like you.

Quietly brilliant, if it was intentional.

Yeah I’d agree with that assessment for sure.

You, who won’t shut up about it already.

He chooses to die on this most sanctimonious yet incorrect take of a hill? This may not be why labor isn’t as popular as it should be, but it doesn’t help

Ugh, you choose to die on this most sanctimonious yet incorrect take of a hill? This may not be why labor isn’t as popular as it should be, but it doesn’t help.

Do they? I neither know, nor care, about their opinions of that knucklehead.  It’s not really relevant to this conversation.

It only trickles to taxpayers if the government bails them out.  The government is not going to bail out Twitter or the banks that loaned to it.

Yeah, FWIW, Musk was never personally on the hook for anything but his original personal investment.  Now, those creditors holding the bag might try to punish his other businesses in response, but they won’t do that if it costs them even MORE money, and I suspect many of those same institutions - or others with shared…