I guess they realized they can’t restrict voting rights to that group so they’ll have to win them over if they want to expand their ever-shrinking base. Its just a calculation, nothing to do with a change of heart.

This is a prime example of the overuse of the term SUV. Its just a boxy car. The cliche is “SUVs are just tall cars”, but this isn’t even all that tall. It looks like the Honda Urban EV concept with larger wheels/tires and plastic cladding, slightly raised.

Stop it, just stop it with calling these SUVs. Or dont,…

That boss is a dick

I hear you, but Ford could easily have ignored a hideous comment and did nothing.. but they didn’t. It’s a damn good start, and I’m not going to be cynical about it, because they cranked that shit to 11. 

So you’re saying they use a group of people as a synonym for anything they dont like? Yeah, thats not ok.

I had no idea, weird.

I’m legit creeped out by the factory trailer hitch option for my ‘18 Outlander PHEV. Shaa-wing!

Are you done?

I priced them out a few years ago, lingering around 16-18k. I exaggerated of course, but you get my point all around. When more automakers start releasing new models it’ll push the price down quite a bit. I recall seeing i3s around $10k, off lease, with only 30k miles, as well as some early e-Golf and other compliance…

I had  a 76 mile BMW i3 for a while, it was a great commuter car till I ran out of ‘trons on the side of the highway in the dead of winter. My fault, I tried to take it out of the city in cold weather. They’re great cars so long as you dont drive under 10 miles of range, cause that range meter lies.

Eeewww, you again. Gross.

Weird flex

Thats ok, you’re allowed to be wrong.

GM batteries are actually really, extremely reliable.. You know, when they’re not on fire. My 10 year old Volt still gets full EPA range at 100k miles.

Not offended, no need. As you’ve noticed, I’m kind of blunt.

Used BMW i3. There, I just saved you $20k :)

No. No it wont. 50% in 3 years? Thats not a thing, not even for the 1st gen Leaf.

VW ID4 isn’t a better option??? Hell, what about a Kia Niro EV or Kona EV? No, the Mazda not the right answer here. Don’t be an enabler.

“.................... the only thing that ruins it for me is the range....... “

Wow, this thing is going to be a BARGAIN on the lease return market. I’m guessing sub $10k in 3+ years when its even less competitive, and everything else in the segment is 400 miles for $25k new. It’s competing with EVs that came out in 2013.