My thoughts exactly, he’s just another totem to be held up by the centrist right as “one of the good ones” because he submits to their belief system

We can all agree Kale is a garbage ingredient, but nah, bay leaves are the shit.

Seriously, coming from someone who’s pantry smells like a giant bay leaf, they definitely have a smell and a flavor. That flavor is particularly earthy with a nice tang at the end. So there.