It’s is such an important part of this concerstation. I was also thinking that for many of these boys this is learned behavior. Everything in our culture that teaches young women they are a commodity also teaches boys that to be considered men they have to treat women as such. BOTH ARE AFFECTED BY THIS MENTALITY. It’s…

How the fuck is one young underage girl able to consent with 16+ guys around her? Are you really that dense and think she could have easily said no and just taken off just like that?

That was my first thought. I am not a moralist when it comes to porn, but without the education that let’s kids know that IT’S NOT HOW THE REAL WORLD WORKS, it can be very dangerous. The tough thing is that most parents don’t want to nor know how to talk to their kids about porn.

Unpopular opinion — porn has something to do with it. At least the type of gross straight-cis-het porn so many teenage boys watch. When you couple violent (or borderline violent) and consent-free porn with zero sex education and you get young men who are susceptible to this kind of thinking about sex.

Legally speaking, she is not. Morally speaking, we can make an argument she is able to consent to have the sex and have the people watch her... however, all that goes out the window when the production and distribution of child pornography become involved, so regardless of our feelings on the first 2, it becomes super…

She can’t legally consent to being watched because she can’t even legally consent to the sex.

I wasn’t speaking of the age of consent at all. I was referring to having boundaries around similar incidents, when a group of men engage in sex with the same girl. Why doesn’t it raise red flags among the male participants? About the mental state of the girl, about the situation, about not having sex with someone who…

This still involves a girl who: 1. was statutory raped because she is too young to consent; 2. didn’t consent to having 25 guys watch her have sex, and again, couldn’t have consented because statutory rape; 3. didn’t consent to star in an adult video, and couldn’t have consented because again, she is not an adult; 4.…

I’m sure he’ll ride in later explaining how we just don’t get it, and men are the ones who suffer more from this violent world. And misogyny? Not a real problem.

This is where the “dont rape” or “don’t have sex with someone who is no able to consent” part of our culture is so desparately needed. Why don’t young men have any boundries? (Spoiler Alert: Because we don’t raise them not to).

Dear Rape Apologists from the Rio article:

I’m in a “fuck everyone!” mood today too. I’m ovulating and apparently my ovaries want to make sure their eggs don’t land in a world full of idiots so it’s given me little tolerance.

Yes. And the age of consent in Florida is 18. There are Romeo/Juliet statutes that allow someone 16 or over to consent to sex with someone between 18 and 23 I believe. This guy was not over the age of consent either. Which is why he is probably not being charged with statutory rape.

I just hope “punished by the school” doesn’t turn into a “well, boys will be boys” talk

What I can gather is the following:

15 year olds cannot legally consent to sex at all with anyone in the state of Florida. “Romeo and Juliet” laws only apply if a kid can consent at all (kinda silly now that I think about it that they’re called that when Juliet was 14 in the story, and I’m not sure if 14 year olds can consent to sex anywhere in the US).

And the gorilla “debate.” Fuck everyone and their opinions and fuck everyone and their actions.

Yup. I’m on the verge of a internet break myself. Between election fuckery, this fuckery, a long weekend spent with midwest-nice-racist-family-fuckery...count me out for awhile.

I think I may be ill. I hope she gets the help she needs and “punished by the school” is more than a stern talking to for the boys involved.

Just trying to hold on to my sanity rn. Feeling like maybe I need to go live in a cabin in the woods forever because everyone is awful and I cant internet anymore.