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Amazing how people are still promoting that crap right here on Jezebel huh?

I remember this happening to me with someone on a land line. We were hanging out, someone called, she spend more than 15 minutes talking to them on it. I eventually just walked out of her flat. This was after the texting explosion though, which she was very into, so this may have been due to expectations already

*shrug* It's all relative I guess. Whether he had deeper issues (that were just harder to identify than hers) or not, I think the point stands. I doubt that she would have been any better at identifying those issues in him than I was, so I would guess she would still find him intimidating in some way. She really had

You're talking about what women want but, as I said, this stuff comes more from what society tells us it is to be a "real" man. Like I said, what women actually want is pretty much ignored. I would argue that in many cases choosing to be nice, or kind, or compassionate is seen as incompatible with masculinity. It

Well thank you, but I assure you that my maturity and awesomness is relegated solely to internet comments.

Yeah, we were pretty inclusive but I do remember doing some bitching of our own. I think we pretended that rejecting some of the macho bullshit made us intellectual titans. I too am cringing now.

I always imagine that must be what it's like for professional athletes when it comes to steroids and the like. There must always be the fear that everyone else is really doing it and that's why you aren't as successful as you want to be. Especially when champion after champion turns out to have actually cheated.

Sorry, meant in jest, I guess I kinda forgot people wouldn't be able to see my other posts where I reject this shit. My bad.

True. I think one problem is that often the same places saying "women don't like nice guys" are the ones who give the easy ten step lists to getting laid (or a girlfriend or whatever). They give you control, because it becomes "perform these actions and you will get what you want". Otherwise you have to acknowledge

Damn, next time you get to reveal your true gender in that way send me a link so I can revel in the schadenfraude. Yeah, I'm that petty.

Uh, I said I wanted easy answers godamnit, weren't you listening? This doesn't help at all!

I may have read too much into the language used in the article but "body-memories", for example, is usually something I hear in relation to recovered memories. I also don't think that repression of memories is "active", but unconscious.

I had actually heard about the Freud debacle a long time ago but never read further on it. I'd forgotten how deeply disappointing it was though.

Haha, well that analogy works I guess. I do remember having a glimpse of that in high-school after my friend who was most vocal about being a Nice Guy fell for the bulimic, self-harming, 3-abortions-in-a-year girl. I remember pointing out to him that she had so many problems it was no wonder that her boyfriend was an

You're right, but I do think that in high-school (where I saw these attitudes form in myself and others) confidence often takes the form of domination over others. I mean I went to a really middle class, liberal school, but for the guys a lot of the popularity contest revolved around dominating others. For a good few

How often does this actually happen though? After Jezebel ran an article recently about a female comedian wanting male comedians to speak out more, I was thinking about this issue. I realised I'd never actually seen a woman use the phrase, only men using it against other men as an ad-hominem attack. At this point I'd

I think this is the first time I've ever read about being a Nice Guy or White Knight actually working. Maybe I won't die a virgin after all!

As always, the "women don't like Nice Guys" fallacy is strongly reinforced by listening to what patriarchy tells us women want, not what they say they want as individuals. Are traits like being "nice", "kind", "thoughtful", "gentle" or "considerate" masculine or feminine? What about "aggressive", "violent",

I guess I'm still bitter since Jez ran a non-critical article about that woman who said "All recovered memories are false. All of them." It's a stance I've seen repeated many times, including by trained therapists.

I personally know someone who has had it applied to her despite remembering these episodes of abuse outside of therapy. Not to mention also being backed up by her sister.