Man, fuck caring about shit! That’s for pussies! Fuck standing up and using your position to protect the wellbeing of those who can’t! Fuck taking responsibility for my actions! I’m a grown man, and I’m going to shit my own pants to prove that you can’t tell me what to do, you’re not my mom! I’m going to be a real man,…
LMFAO the power struggle isn’t emotional. You don’t think white people had power that they used to enslave others? You might want to read up on that.
Why are you people always singling out men?
The Gillette ad and the APA tried to put men’s wellbeing at the forefront of our national conversation. But a lot of men would rather keep their tendency to homicidality, suicidality, sexual abuse than lose any of their power.
As noted, this is ultimately a strategic gambit of creating controversy to sell products, i.e., one more example of the cynicism at the core of capitalism.
The part that seems extra bonkers to me is that, by including Terry Crewe’s testimony, Gillette was even explicitly acknowledging male victims, which is something MRAs frequently scream about.
“A shaving ad written by pink-haired feminist scolds is about as effective as a tampon ad written by middle aged men… count this 30-year customer out.”
The ad is fine. I find it generally annoying when a product/company capitalizes on social movements, but this is fine.
Other ideas I can get behind:
- An ad featuring drag queens
- An ad featuring trans men/women and genderqueer folks: “The best anyone can get”
The ad strikes me as a fairly anodyne rehash of messages that have been out there for years. There’s nothing that ought to strike anyone as new and ground-breaking.
“of course the malignantly masculine personalities, both public and private, that grow mad at anything possible, piled on to this highly visible expression of, well, brand solidarity. Piers Morgan, for instance, doesn’t like the ad and neither does James Woods. CNBC points out that hundreds of thousands of people have…
“nowhere in her statement does it also say that men who think they might rape women when they are drunk should stay sober too”
I agree with you 100%. I think most of the anger comes from this... if you’re making a statement that a woman could choose not to drink to lessen her chance of being raped, while also saying that drunk men are being held responsible for their actions while drunk women are not... nowhere in her statement does it also…
I’ll give Carrie A. Nation a tiny pass as her first husband died from drinking, and her family had a history of mental illness (her mother thought she was the Queen of England!).
Imaging being like “Dwarf Tossing - yep that’s the hill i want to die on defending.”
Get out your hatchets, everyone, she wants to bring back the WCTU! It’s the second coming of Carrie Nation.
if she drinks to the point where she can no longer choose, well, getting to that point was part of her choice
Okay, Rao logic, so if a drunk driver drives off the road and hit and kills a drunk person walking home, the person walking home is also responsible because it was their choice to be walking somewhere...? What am I missing here?