It’s cool that you’re taking an initiative to educate yourself on this issue. I think managers using their time in that way could help make office environments more comfortable for everyone.

I don’t believe sexism is natural to men. I think it excuses a lot of their behavior to say so. I also think your assertion that only great women can “fix” a man’s true nature puts all the responsibility for taking care of sexism on women. I don’t have time to personally train all the men in my life to be better human…

You know that guy is dead. Even if just from embarrassment.

Of course. I didn’t say that bisexual cis people are more oppressed than trans people, I was responding to OP’s statement that the LG community has had trouble with the B and T communities. I’m sorry if it somehow came off like I was trying to play oppression olympics, but that is not what I said.

The movement has had problems with transgender and bisexual members. Trans and bisexual people are very often erased from discussion, and thereby any action for their rights is stunted. As the article says, if this sentiment originated from the trans community, I think it would warrant more unpacking. As it is…

The OP alluded to specific emotional struggles which are outlined in the article. Just because you want her to have said something doesn’t mean she said it. Read it again and find the specificity.

You’re really going to come at me with this weak bullshit? Let’s make one thing clear:

Also, there’s no shame in admitting you said something dumb. We all do it. I once spouted a pretty shitty opinion around here and was thoroughly flamed for it. But I admitted I was wrong, apologized, and did better next time.

Half-joking is still not all serious, and thus shouldn’t be counted as such.

Guess you missed the part where the article says that’s meant as a joke. But sarcasm isn’t for everyone.

Here’s a prime example of what this article is about. We’re all here to read about and discuss the topic of women’s emotional labor. There have been several articles on men’s emotional issues and how we can better ensure that men and boys are allowed a full range of human emotion. And yet here is a man derailing one…

So sorry to hear about your boyfriend. My boyfriend passed away too. It’ll be three years in March. I still cry at weird moments about it. Especially while watching RuPaul’s Drag Race, which was his favorite show.

Telling men to listen when it comes to experiences they have not had is not divisive unless you believe that men somehow know more about what it’s like to be a woman than women.

It’s okay. You’re trying a little too hard now.

Oh jeez. You’re trying to debate about sexism and you don’t even know what sexism means. Sexism is institutional bias against women. That does not exist for men. Men are not barred from any position because they are men, excepting only the positions that are associated with women and are therefore considered less…

I have brought up minorities. My point is that you can’t have a discussion about men’s rights and exclude the most vulnerable group of men there is - trans men.

But you are making that argument. If women always have to be worried about offending male allies, then the men aren’t allies at all, they’re playing the respectability politics game. It happens with race issues as well and it’s illogical. It also upholds the same shitty system.

But that’s the thing - if you want to learn about racism, you don’t ask a white person. If you want to learn about sexism, you don’t ask a man. Sometimes, as a part of feminism, men really do have to shut up and listen. It’s not because women devalue men or because we think men are stupid. It’s because women would…

Feminists are the ones who created domestic violence shelters for men. Feminists are the ones who created resources for male victims of rape. Feminists are the ones who actively work towards rights for transgender men, who you completely neglect to mention. Feminists are the ones against the draft for everyone, not…

Then if, as you admit, more men have political power, why is it not their responsibility to make things better for men?