I read the title of the article and thought it was Zach and Ari on their 1000 mile ride through Alaska, and the Zero’s were the Honda Trails they rode.

counterpoint....the south end of a northbound mule has intelligent design decisions that focus on functionality.

That thing is uglier than the South facing end of a Northbound mule!

Don’t listen to the other self righteous jerk. People can change and grow to be better. Your perspective is helpful to this conversation.

Honesty appreciated.

I am, to my shame, a 2-time loser. And as such, I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that no system exists outside of full automation that can keep drunks from driving while also not screwing over normal, rational drivers at the same time.

Amen on surface chemistry! Way (way way way) back when I was a co-op at Motorola Energy Systems (they made the cellphone batteries before there were smartphones) one of my jobs was figuring out what adhesive to use to stick the battery packs (PVC shrinkwrap) into the plastic housing (Noryl to save weight) into the…

And for accuracy:

Give me that Suburban please.

No, the people with surfboards are parking there to go surfing across the street at Malibu Point when the Lagoon parking lot is full. The car enthusiasts generally are eating coffee/breakfast at Bill’s or one of the other restaurants there.

“I’m a nice guy.”
“Do you know who I am?”
“I’m brutally honest.”
“You’ll change your mind.”
“Because I can.”
Anything having to do with being an “alpha”
“You’re so sensitive.”
“You’ve just lost a customer.”
“I tell it like it is.”
“Sorry, I can’t help it, I’m a [insert zodiac sign].”
“Don’t give me excuses.”
“I’m just asking…

I’m not sure this is great from a business-travel perspective, which is when I typically rent cars. I’m already juggling a bunch of priorities when booking my travel, and coordinating recharge stations is not something I want to add to that list.

This EV won’t work for me because the commute to my job is 20 miles each way and once I get there they don’t give me enough money to buy this car.

Keep in mind (unless you already know this) that the 4.2 has the lovely cam sprockets that are a press-fit, and requires the special tooling to get everything aligned properly - there’s a pin that goes in the side of the block to lock the crank, and a bar that aligns the cams - then the belt can be replaced. Blauparts…

We have contrasting definitions of what “totally different” means.

They should go here:

Now THAT’S a handle I haven’t seen in a long time. Where’ve you been $kay?

I’m sure this news must’ve given Elon Musk a raging boner.

So it turns out you CAN go back to Constantinople?