They make it about as effectively as you make your first point.

Fuck off, jerk. Go lick the butts of your conservative friends. I’m busy.

“It’s too rich, and poor people in the rest of this country need its money.”

It’s not handouts if you get it from Blue regions and give nothing back in return but invective. Then it’s a victory for your team, like the spoils of war.

Well when we get proper representation even in just the House, we’ll go back to being happy to share. The Republicans capped the number of representatives about a hundred years ago to artificially maintain their majority then, and it has steadily eroded the rights of the citizens in the most populous states since.

Exactly. I really think California should at least consider some sanctions and a serious lack of cooperation. If they did secede, I’d support it because they are being taxed without representation.

har har You do realize California pays for most of the red states there? They could just as easily turn that money inward and fund themselves instead.

Your point here is?

I think it’s less about fleeing when things get hard than when things get blatantly corrupt/the official arm of the federal state is being used to support fascism that is largely funded by a state adamantly opposed to those policies.

I’m sorry, weren’t you guys railing against handouts?

If you secede, take Washington and Oregon with you! Cascadia Alliance Uber Alles!

Jesus, this bullshit is just the liberal version of “Fuck You I Got Mine”.

If poor people in the rest of the country would like that money, might I suggest they start voting the same way as California? California isn’t obligated to the rest of the country if the rest of the country continually votes in the opposite way as what is important to the people there...all of the people, not just…

I was thinking that secession was a hilarious joke but the more I think about it, the more I think we need to grab Washington and Oregon, create a beautiful coastal country called Pacifica, and hold most of the US’s produce and tech products hostage until they agree to recognize our sovereignty.

Wow, really? “We want your money but won’t be representing your values and fuck you for being angry about that.”

Don’t apologize. “Fuck them” is a good start. They’re proudly pissing on our founding principles.

Sigh, always misleading, aren’t they? The fact is, government EXPANDS under GOP, and shrinks under Dems.

I hope these cities keep stepping up and showing that, no, not everyone in this state wants things this way (looking at my home state, Texas).

I love when their justification is “well only liberal cities have filed for bankruptcy!” And then when you point out that nearly a quarter of chapter 9 filings come from Nebraska alone, those people short circuit.

Republicans are putting plans into motion to prevent Democrats and leftists in liberal cities from enacting laws that are in opposition to the federal and state laws created by Republicans.