I'm an engineer for International trucks and work on the Lonestar body sometimes, he is using most of the good and the headlights from that truck.

Go drive a Volkswagen GTI, and if hatches aren't your thing, GLI. Both have four doors, seat 4 easily, PLENTY of sporting intentions, good enough on gas for you, and will be well within your price range with low miles. Let me know what you think.

First off, BMW, MB, Audi, and Mini are in an entirely different classification of cars than VW. If your budget is 20k, I wouldn't recommend the luxury cars unless you are really looking to get something for pure fun.

All cars cost too much to maintain if you let the dealer run the show. Some basic knowledge on how cars work and minor maintenance items will save you $$.

If manuals aren't your thing, I get it, but don't use the city as an excuse. I live in Chicago and wouldn't drive anything else. You don't need race shoes and a Hulk sized leg to drive a manual. My Volvo requires very little effort on the clutch actually. After I hop out of my E30 and get in the Volvo, my foot…

Did you only go to an Acura dealer? Only thing worse would have been a Lincoln dealer.

You don't have to hate it. Personally, I have not owned an automatic car or truck and have no plans on owning one until I can afford a proper automatic, a Mercedes Benz, or until my joints cannot support the habit anymore.

I've already voted for you like 4 times.

Great post, but did you have to disgrace the wagon name by associating them with CR-Vs?

Obviously the minimum criteria is manual and wagon. Likely, what I would buy for a DD would be FWD due to not being able to afford the pricetag of the RWD models.

Aging meme is accurate.

So in some cases they don't listen to enthusiasts enough. Bringing a wagon over? You better make it RWD, manual, diesel, and torque-o-licious!

It's the Cadillac of Cars-Not-Sold-In-That-Country.

I can see where they come from, but everyone's opinions are biased on an assumption that they know what happened before the video started. I am assuming the RR did something to provoke the brake check. I could be wrong, and what seems to rub everyone the wrong way is that they assume he did nothing to provoke the…

Driving your car at speed is not provoking, but there's there rub: I don't know what the RR did before the video started and neither do you (unless you were there and you've been keeping that to yourself). It could go either way, and I only speculate on one outcome of events. Like I said before, if he truly did not…

Hahaha, life without a good debate is like a Camry.

I am in no way defending the riders at all. I just hope those guys self destruct off the bike because it would be a shame to see so much innocent machinery go to waste.

I will agree the video lacks footage of what happened prior to the RR being swarmed. After thinking about it, just driving along, you may not even be able to notice what is about to happen until it is too late since they were probably not obeying the speed limit.

Ok. You're allowed to have an opinion too. I never said the bikers were in the right; they were more-wrong, if that's a thing.

I'll admit too that it is a sad reality in sport-biking on the street. I think the reason that most of the sportbikes you see seem to be piloted by asshats is what I have found to be the case where I live: The serious sportbikers who would not participate in that behavior, don't. They go to the track and leave the…