At one of the VW shows I went to a while back I saw a Doublecab that had been driven into a lake for sale, still had moss and stuff growing on it. Shows you how much people want these things.

Volvo holmes. Gotta be Volvo.

So far everything but the ass is ugly as hell. Maybe at the reveal it'll look a little better because its not on a magazine. we shall see.

Soooo, your a Douchebag then?

There were a couple years ago! But they've all been crashed now.

This needs to be one.

Just ordered mine! :)

Full opposite lock.

Hahaha, just a teensy little bit.

Thats alright. We all start somewhere with the big V8's. Its all good.

Hey, the XJ220 still was fast as fuck even after all that.

The Challenger wasn't in production until 1970, and seeing as they all came with the same engine options, at last until '72, it just sounds like a Challenger.

How do you propose to twin turbo an LSX? Those engines are notoriously bad under boost. its a small block bored out to a big block displacement, the cylinder walls are extremely thin.

McLaren always has been the benchmark for stunning design to me.

It just feels more like driving a real car at speed to me, all the same stuff is there in Forza, but it doesn't feel like driving a real car, very close, but its still a little Arcadey. Gran Turismo is the most realistic console racing game I've ever played, and while its not perfect. Its a lot better than people give…

Except the ACR is faster....Not sure if the ZR1 is or not. But I get what your saying, and I agree on all counts, especially that the Viper and the 'Vette back then weren't supercars. Although, the new Viper definitely is, and possibly the new 'Vette.

Well yes. those big rigs are why I bought the game originally.

There ya go. Your insanity is curing.

The sound from that first video is genuinely terrifying. One of very few times a car has given me goosebumps, just the way it overwhelms the microphone.

The 1000 in that game is the best offroad racing I've ever had in any game. Ever. This and Gran Turismo 5 are what I play if I want to drive. Baja EOC is a great offroad game. Notice how if you let go of the wheel the track was rough enough you probably wouldn't go straight? Where just driving straight at full speed…