It’s not just the cost of the EV. Everyone I know who has an EV also has:

Which you can get with carplay and android auto. Porsche just did it. The API is there - they just want the subscription revenue.

For most people in the US, buying a vehicle is a big purchase they don’t do often. It doesn’t surprise me that people are hesitant to spend (often more) money on a vehicle that’s a new technology to them and will make them change their normal vehicle habits.

Along with this, even their own reporting shows EV sales going up so far this year compared to last year.  This just seems like automakers over-correcting after previous shortcomings combined with high interest rates.  But sure, it has to mean no one wants EVs.

“and [the car] tracks all your movements with no way to opt out or find out where that information is going?”

This. Can’t wait until manufacturers overreact and we are swamped in well-built economy cars and compact pickups with no unwanted features in six years’ time.

Weird. Normal people don’t want to buy a $50k car with 7% interest rates, tech that’s outdated faster than a modern smartphone, a business model that’s constantly pushing microservices, and tracks all your movements with no way to opt out or find out where that information is going?

This certainly conforms to my experience recently. We’re looking for a new car and the lots are largely barren - except for dedicated EVs from some companies. We could have jumped into a Solterra, BZ4X, Mach-E, e-Mini, etc. immediately - just completed the sale and driven it off the lot... and in any number of…

Meanwhile, dealers, forever the unnecessary middle man, are tacking on markups and add-ons that seem to be getting higher every time a new model drops.

Note that what they aren’t providing with these markups-in-disguise are extended service contracts (warranties)...because those can be canceled and refunded at any point. Whereas the physical goods they apply to the car cannot be.

Don’t give Elon Mush any of your hard earned money. Just don’t.

If I’m spending Model X money, then I’m shopping elsewhere entirely not at Tesla. The Model X represents the poorest value in the Tesla lineup if you ask me. Also gimmicky problematic “falcon wing” doors… no thanks.

that hole in the driver’s seat sure looks like a cigarette burn. 

That stain on the driver’s seat? Giddy pee. 

Agreed. Consumer preference is rapidly shifting towards EVs/PHEVs, but you can’t get a Toyota EV/PHEV without a 2 year wait or paying $10k+ over MSRP. Really poor planning on Toyota’s part.

As someone turning 40 this year... I would like to believe that ‘93 was only 20 years ago... thank you for making me feel younger than I am.

“because accuracy isn’t worth having to pay copywriters.”
Do you realize quite how often Jalopnik’s articles get corrected by readers?
I am left to wonder if Gizmodo has any copywriters on staff...

Absolutely that. In the last 3 years my house has purchased 3 new cars. None of us could even test drive a Toyota, let alone have any certainty we could get what we wanted at MSRP and within 6+ months. All different vehicles (RAV4, Highlander, & Sienna) and the whole experience almost felt like Toyota didn’t want us…

I expected to ND this one, but the more I look at it the more I like it. It’s genuinely rare and the cosmetic issues can either be fixed for a reasonable price or ignored. I’d get the dent repaired, throw in some sports seats from a US spec model, and call it a day.

The article is a bit confusing. The 4wt trim is a work truck trim and not the base model. It was originally to be $77905 so $79800 isn’t a huge mark up.