Shit for that price you can get a used Limited with the Raptor engine and ball massaging seats

Crack pipe

If you live in the US it shouldn’t shock you. New full size SUVs and pickup trucks are rarely less than 50K.

Anything with summer tires. Driving in extreme cold or snow will give summer tires all the grip of a bowling ball. They are downright dangerous to you and others in even a tiny amount of snow.

ND. I’ve got a BIG love for Viggens, and tearing through the night with the top down and the music up is one of life’s great pleasures. I don’t mind paying for the suspension work that’s often done to tame the hilarious torque steer * , though I don’t trust the anyone else’s engine work. But SAAB got this car right…

Except they already did small economical EV’s and nobody bought them. Nissan Leaf, VW e-Golf, BMW i3, Chevy Spark EV, Smart ForTwo electric, Ford Focus EV, Fiat 500e.

I mean, Nissan Leafs aren’t exactly burning up the sales charts. 

This E   M   B   L   E   M trend needs to die.  It looks fcking terrible.

“The seller says it recently received new belts and seat upholstery...”

“Actually,”

Oh how I loathe marketing people.

Every single trip you’d end up in grocery/drug store parking lots explaining to old guys what it isn’t, why it is what it is, then listening to each old guy tell you about their overblown old Mustang story from their youth.

This is what I’ve been thinking. I’ve been a EV and PHEV buyer/user for years, but looking at it strictly from a cost-savings perspective the PHEV makes zero sense compared to the regular hybrid model. ESPECIALLY since this car won’t be eligible for the $7500 tax credit. 

My feeling as well. Same crap as everywhere, super premium prices, even before the pandemic. But I cheerfully sold them two cars over the years.

That Acura Legend can’t be that dope. I believe it is the same one from the NP or ND on December 7, and came in at a 72% ND loss.

We don’t want to be Sears

I think a major factor is that Toyota doesn’t have a direct relationship with the dealers and dealer groups.

I agree with him.

I guess you could draw all sorts of conclusions here but there are corroborating statistics that look at vaccine acceptance and things like education, political position, religious belief, climate change, conspiracy theories, etc.

I do hate the separate park mode, but honestly, most cars with electronic shifters, park is just a formality. The moment you turn off the vehicle or open the door with your foot on the brake, the car will automatically put itself in park (unless you override).