I hear you. I’d bet Mercedes/BMW marketers think it makes the car feel more upscale or something by needing to add options.

Looks like I can get a Ram SRT-10 with similar mileage for about $27k.  So I’m not sure why I’d ever buy this if I wanted a hot rod Dodge truck.

To be fair, it seems like a number of the “wealthy, self-financed explorers” do hire the best and spend money to ensure they are safe to proceed as much as possible.

No sir, I don’t like it.

“From a private collector’s car fault. Wait til you hear the unbelievable story.”

My frustration with Toyota (and Lexus) supply actually had me considering whether owning a used E450 wagon would be so bad.

If I am buying a “sporty Volvo”, it needs to have a sporty transmission.  And of course be preferably a wagon.

I thought I was going crazy seeing this described as a kei car.

It just seems expensive and I’m wondering if there are enough customers to go around for this, the Civic Type-R, and then the TLX Type-S sitting a few thousand bucks above this with AWD and a bigger backseat.

No pictures of the inside, but I’m guessing it isn’t much to get excited about.

If you can drop $100k on a toy like this (although it is at $53k today), you might have enough money where you aren’t too worried about it.

My only guess is in the never ending chase to not disappoint Wall St. every quarter, companies sold off their equipment during the initial downturn with COVID disruptions. Like they’d never need them again. I don’t know, just guessing what a genius CEO would do to get that temporary “hit” on the books that they always…

I’m painting with a broad brush here.  Sleeper wood paneled wagon would be fun. 

I’m in. And seeing those wheels, I’m inspired to put a Coyote under the hood and restomod the suspension/brakes.

Or the consumer pushed the manufacturer to cover it.  I’ve never heard of the dealership advocating with the manufacturer to get something covered.  Wouldn’t a dealer generally prefer not to have their shop doing warranty work, that often isn’t as lucrative as charging 3 hours of labor to change brake pads?

Southeast Toyota is a stain on an already grimy industry.  I’d buy my car anywhere but locally if I lived in their territory.

I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if their attorneys are looking at this to get around these laws. Of course then the politicians that are on staff with the NADA could change it, but maybe the OEMs start cutting some big checks themselves.

Because they write checks to politicians. So politicians are convinced they should exist.

Only wants to sell to “Lotus builders”, no amateurs.

I’m with you. I remember when they came out it, the car magazines were all covering it of course, and I kept wondering what was so exciting about it. I’m sure it is still a hoot to drive, but otherwise, I’m just not seeing it.