I’m a bit torn. The fact the catalytic converter is apparently sorted correctly makes me believe maybe the car was taken care of. A true cheapo would be selling it as-is when it can’t pass smog or would have some attempt at cheating on there.

This has nothing to do with Brexit? Seems like having a factory in the EU would be a benefit for selling your goods in the EU instead of building in England and exporting to the EU.

I can fit 10' in my Prius with the hatch closed.  But that glass hatch would be nice for longer stuff.  Forgot about those. 

Maybe the Ferrari accessories are also hard to come by in whatever country these will be shipped off to. Each Ferrari shipped off comes with a free hat and key chain, nice personal touch.

The Buick Century was never a special car. At $4k it needs to be completely sorted, not have a phantom stalling issue.

I don’t know if MS has a source to see what “contributions” politicians are getting. If they do, it probably wouldn’t be too hard to follow the money here. NADA, state association, local dealers are probably cutting checks to keep their cartel secure.

It always seems like these government contracts somehow are written so that the contractor has no expectation of performance and the government has no recourse when they fail to perform. 

Speak for yourself on the road trip thing. If I had 500 miles of range, I’m using it. I want my trip over with. I sip water, don’t eat much of anything. Keep the odometer moving. When I refuel, I hit the bathroom and get back on my way. I don’t sit there for 45 minutes.

I don’t get some of these cars I see on Turo. If you got a truck you don’t use all the time, I can see why you’d list it on there to make some money.  Or hell, you lose your job and are scrambling for income. 

“Please no angry-guys or loserish comments from broke-ass crybaby tire kickers who think they can somehow beat the market with bizarre stories from the distant past or the painful present”

And always have an offer in hand when you go to the dealer. That way the dealer has something to beat rather than enabling them to just pick a number that they think you will accept.

Even without the salvage title, this isn’t that special of a car to command this price.  Maybe if it was a diesel you’d get interest from those enthusiasts.

Part 2 of this is actually offering real “orders” for the cars. I know that isn’t an issue for many OEMs who do offer special orders, but I see Honda/Acura mentioned here, who I believe follows the Toyota method of allocating cars to dealers, so that consumers have to cross their fingers that something they like comes…

The Kia Forte is far better looking still.  Unless you want the N, or your Kia dealer is just awful, probably better off going there. 

I need charging time to go down and infrastructure to expand before I could consider having more than 1 EV. Trips for us are usually out in the “middle of nowhere”. I need to be able to refuel out there and not have it take an hour.

So 363,000 people shelled out $10-15k for “full self driving” that is currently worthless?

It looks dirty, sure, but most nearly 20 year old cars I see listed here seem to have a giant tear in their leather driver seat.  This seems to be above average overall. 

I wanted one of these about 10 years ago, and still like the package, but as others have pointed out....it could be a risky thing to own nearing 20 years and extending past 100k miles.  Maybe if it had good maintenance documentation. 

I am aware I cannot afford a Lucid Air.

I’d get a Vette. Maybe consider a Mustang or Camaro if the under $20k Vette market is looking rough.