You know what?

Is there anything that tells you the doors don’t open and you can’t use the AC during the update? I can totally sympathize that a person might not know what happens when their car is updating, since “updating a car” is still a relatively new thing that no one knows about.

Um... would it be that hard to allow the doors to continue to operate during an update? Or at least allow the manual release to function without somehow damaging the vehicle? (Or require updates to be performed when the vehicle is empty, like Lucid?) I really wonder sometimes whether Tesla actually understands (or…

I’m sure StalePhish will be along shortly to educate us simpletons.

If Musk is talking, then he’s lying.

Hybrids - all the positives of an ICE engine + none of the downsides of an EV. 

But no range anxiety, smaller battery = less weight, which all translates to more fun and less tyre wear (and less road wear).

...I only bought my truck BECAUSE it was an EV, first pickup I’ve ever personally owned. Family owned a LOT while I was growing up, every model of Sierra Denali since they started making them. Guess I’m the sliver of overlap. I wanted an EV, I have a family that hauls a lot of stuff, an open bed is nice to have when…

I keep trying to explain that even though 70% of folks live in detached housing, roughly half of that is older stock with 100A service. Newer houses are usually 200A or even 400A service.  The ROI for upgrading older 100A service isn’t there.

I’ve looked at it from every single conceivable direction, and it still just doesn’t make economic sense to buy an EV. I pay $0.26 / kWh for electricity, and it would cost (roughly) $10k to upgrade my house’s electrical system to be able to install a level 2 charger, including the permits necessary for increasing my…

You didn’t disappoint, thanks!

You first. One, that number... Is more than 41k, thereby shooting your initial premise in the foot, and that is after Tesla’s BS “gas savings” subtraction. My Corvette didn’t cost more to buy because it gets poor MPG, and this doesn’t cost less to buy because it doesn’t use gas.

Calm down. Breathe.

then you’re a luddite.

Tesla has been selling cars since 2012, you’d think that they could do a simple QA inspection at the factory and PDI at the dealer like everyone else. I  did not need to do my own PDI on a Mazda.

Found one!

A big part of being in a cult is having to constantly apologize for the inherent shittiness of life in the cult.

Regular dealerships get weird when they think they have something special and forget what they are rather then just be excited to offer a performance model.

I experienced the same thing with Toyota when the supra came out. They would not let me test drive a car without a down payment on it. Porsche had no such problems…

This person clearly does not fully think through things here. All a tax like this would do is penalize people who financially need penalized the least. Like it or not, cars (and in most cases gas) are needs, not wants for most people to live. 

It has nothing to do with corwardice. It has to do with fairness. Do you really think this tax won’t trickle down to the price at the gas pump? Who do you think this tax will harm the most? (Low income people.)