Yeah, especially with the low DC charge rate. If they’d future proofed it with 150kw+ capability it’d be a lot more compelling as a purchase. Especially considering they’re charging $700 to even have DC charging.

They should just take the volt tech and apply it to the Colorado. BEV works great for small cars but SUVs and pickups are still a niche where a PHEV has a lot going for it, especially if you tow.

These are also more suited to the places that aren’t quite ready for EVs yet.

They seem very unevently distributed. I’d bet half of them are in Socal and the bay area.

I don’t get it either, the Volt has wonderful seats. I guess they were trying to maximize the already generous rear leg room?

So this is going to be NIOs first mass produced car?

I get some of the EV skeptics in the middle of the country, but Someone should make a plugin hybrid pickup.

The music just makes this one.

Plus side is I’d be a lot less worried about scratching my trailer while loading / unloading and for toys like motorcycles etc. the lower load height is a big advantage.

But some people just want a truck, and I get it.

It’s more like $3k-$5k on the highlander (varies by trim for some reason) and almost 9 mpg city. Could be worth it for some users who do a lot of city miles. Also it saves Toyota some hassle of having to push other stuff for CAFE.

There were rumors of a hybrid Tundra a while ago but I guess GMs failures with mild…

I’m surprised they never really pushed hybrids for the lien SUV and trunk line. Highlander and RX hybrids are nice but maybe they don’t sell well enough to justify a taco or tundra

If Honda hadn’t botched the civic hybrid we could’ve been spared all this.

People who make less money tend to lease their EV. The leasing company claims the credit and applies it to the lease. Right now that credit has lead to some seriously cheap lease deals on EVs.

yeah roadtripping a 1st gen leaf is a bit extreme. Even San Diego to LA would be an ordeal in one but around town they’re alright.

I wish GM would make a PHEV Colorado or whatever they’re calling their CUV now. That’d be great for the middle of the country.

I think LG is giving it to them good on pricing for that thing. Even at $40k they’re still losing money on it (about $10k apparently).

It’s too bad because it’s a nice powertrain, but they should’ve made a $50k Cadillac CUV out of it and beat the model Y to market by 5 years. I guess the ELR left a bad taste in their…

I think it’s funny that people think this screws Tesla. They were going to hit the phaseout rather quickly anyway, so most of the 400k M3 reservations probably wouldn’t benefit (not all of those are US but a lot are).

Plus most of their buyers are getting a tax cut that would equal the subsidies over 3 years (or less)…

EVs being limited to the coasts I think has more to do with infrastructure and the lack of availability you mentioned (driven Cal. EV mandate) . It’s not like Midwesterners put a lot more miles on their cars than Californians.

My general theory of range anxiety is that it’s more a function of charging network density…

holy smokes, I hope they give them some kind of mask to deal with all that smoke. Or at least some bourbon and a rag .

One thing that i’ve noticed contributes to this isn’t the suspension but the instant torque and regen, especially on a road like this you’re constantly accelerating and decelerating even more abrubtly than you might in a petrol car. Even if you’re accelerating hard out of a corner in both cars, there’s a bit more of a…

This is why my car doesn’t have air suspension.