I haven’t invalidated anything. Modding is basically portfolio work, it’s building a reputation and getting noticed. It’s an internship, and it isn’t one where a business is actively looking for you, it’s one you’re staking out yourself. You’re creating fan-content for something that is already made. You’re doing a…

Yeah that’s quite a bit different than “buy our game now you can buy mods.” The base game is free, and it is modular. How do you not see the difference there?

Most indie developers create their own games on small teams and work up from there. They don’t start with huge sums of money. Look at No Man’s Land. Look at Cave Story. Look at fucking Fez, as bad as I feel that is. Look at Super Meat Boy.

Being a modder is a way to get experience and get noticed. It’s like an…

Yeah, you’re being -commissioned.- Someone is directly asking you to create something. The same can be done with commissioned mods. Creating mods as a business opportunity, that’s weak. You need to be making your own games. You expect a specific price from a market? Make your own game. Commissioned projects are…

I didn’t scream or stamp my feet, that was my first comment on the matter. Counter Strike was purchased by a developer and turned into a full game. Left 4 Dead, the same. Garry’s Mod, the same. That is a legitimate avenue. If you look at those games, they have fantastic amounts of original assets, original…

You’re mad as fuck and I’m not quite sure why. I am more than open to pay for indie games. That’s why I have so many on Steam, through Humble Bundle, Indie Gala, Desura, and so on. But those are games built from a foundation created by an engine, not by an existing game. They are built, not tweaked and added onto.

They…

No, it’s a business move. And in business, there are monetary transactions. Mods are not business products, they are fan made. If someone doesn’t have the skill to create a full game, they should get together with others and make an indie project. That is something that could be worth paying for. That’s why modding…

I never once said I did. Paying for mods is like paying for fan edits of movies. Fan tweaking and adding is completely different than game development. Modding definitely leads into that, but that’s where you get your start quite often. You could get picked up, you could get the rights to turn your mod into it’s own…

You’re completely missing the mark here. Auto shops that work on high-end customization for cars work on one-off projects, they are essentially commissioned. I’d be alright with someone paying a modder for a specific mod that they want created. But general mod making for mass consumption is like making a fan edit to a…

Right, that is the different. One is worth money, the other is not. And I’m not a cheap ass, I don’t use any mods as it is. I’ve looked into Skyrim modding, but it wasn’t worth the trouble to me and I had enough fun with the core game. Plastering a horse’s vagina onto an existing model isn’t something that is worth…

No, modders create assets for existing games, tweak values to change things up, add on to what is there. They don’t create a game from scratch, minus an engine. That isn’t game development, it’s modding, and that should be a hobby, not a profession.

Indeed it is. And base Unity is free as well, I believe. No reason these modders can’t create their own games, be indie developers. Modding what is already there is just, that’s not pure creation. You really shouldn’t get paid for that. That’s like getting paid for a fan edit of a movie, like has been done with Star…

If you want to release a full game on your own framework or a licensed engine, okay. If you’re making content for a game, that’s “fan content.” That needs to be free.

Otherwise you’re just an indie developer, and that’s different than a modder. The people that want paid for their work need to make their own games, not…

This movie was so good, as was the Street Fighter V TV series.

Ah, the emphasis was hard to tell through text. Stupid internet misunderstanding. All for your stance on that. The wife and I went with a cubic zirconia or whatever it is for her wedding ring. Looks great, was affordable, and if it were to be stolen or lost it wouldn’t be irreplaceable beyond sentimental value. That’s…

It has nothing to do with that. I work in marketing. In my job, I get constant emails from clients and prospective clients, not to mention internal emails, all day long. I have a newborn, so I’m constantly receiving texts from my wife regarding new things he’s doing. I have Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, many social…

This post right here. This one post shows that this guy has no idea what he’s talking about, because he’s never had a job with actual responsibility.

You sound mad.

Oh, I didn’t realize that willing dominate/submissive relationships are now sexist. I should tell my wife.

Some people like that. My wife likes that. Quit with your fucking agenda.