Garbage take thanks for sharing

Lmao this is the truest thing I’ve read. Everyone gets so excited for a car they can’t afford, or will need to take a 72mo loan on to be able to afford. And those same people will come after you if you suggest the car is overpriced. This website is hilarious like that 

You know what, I think there’s some validity to this argument. I can accept that the manual take rate is lower because it’s offered on the shitty trims, so people will buy the trim they want but miss out on the manual, this skewing the numbers. Overall those numbers would still read a vast preference for autos still,…

The general population does not buy manuals. Even the population that buys Wranglers/Gladiators does not buy manuals. Even the population that buys Mini Coopers (highest ratio of manuals, or at least it was a few years ago) does not buy manuals. It’s 2020, you know that the manual is offered on cool trim levels.

Yes these are all great points. But again, like on FB posts (aka internet hype) does not equate to people actually buying. If anything the cars most bought are typically the ones with the least hype around them (Tesla 3 is the biggest rule breaker here). Plenty of Porsche 918s get likes, but no one can afford them.…

The most they will do is steal market share from people already wild enough to spend that much money on a wrangler. They are not bringing in any new customers into their market at these price points. They will absolutely sell, all cars *sell*. But it will certainly not be at the volumes the internet hype train leads…

The problem with the Supra is the same as the Bronco. Everyone on the internet is overjoyed and kidding themselves “oh yea I’m totally gonna buy one” but when it comes time to walk to walk they realize it’s either a) too expensive to afford or b) is a horrible value proposition when you consider what other vehicle you…

The problem an average new $37k car/SUV gives you so much more than a $37k Bronco, which btw is the price of the base model 4dr. I’ll grant you that if you buy a 2dr you have room for options, but you’re still mostly throwing money away for the name instead of real value for the price.

“They will sell a gorillian of these”

So steelies have more off road performance that bead lockers. Wow I’m learning a lot today

If I think spending $40k on a SUV with steelies, and you show me a $50k SUV on a steelies do you think all of a sudden I will be ok with a $40k SUV on steelies? Or do you think I will also think steelies don’t belong on a $50k SUV?

So that’s why the most off-road focused trims come with steelies then right?

That’s interesting. I just watched 3 separate YouTube videos (Edmunds, Tom Voelk, Steve Hammes) all say the base 4dr starts at $36k and the 2dr at $31k (after deliver fee)

They won’t sell because these price points are way outside what the working class can afford, especially given the current climate and future outlook. 

Bronco is introducing real estate pricing with this model. “My neighbors house is $450,000 so since my house is newer it’s de facto worth $500,000.” 

Are you me? I thought I was the only one willing to call out these insane prices. This makes the insanity that is Wranglers MSRPs (in 2020 there exists a $36,000MSRP version that has wind up windows, a few years ago the base model went for $27,000 and didn’t include A/C) look like a value proposition.

None of which are affordable by the middle class. Good time to be in the car poster business maybe. 

The post-COVID economy will be interesting, especially to see how long this “second wave” (are we even in the second wave?) last and how much longer the current status quo will remain. It’s important to keep in mind the post-COVID (really the “post-COVID outbreak”) economy includes a lot of people unable to pay…

Welcome to the 2020 where everyone is a racist and no one can think for themselves 

Starting price for 2dr is $31k, for 4dr is $36,2k, which translates to over $40k our the door aka the real price you have to pay to get one. Not looking like a strong seller when unemployment is at record highs.