Both the Kinect and Move have been basically useless for actual gaming. If you want to wave and talk to your TV to change channels, by all means. If I were buying a console this gen (so far, no) I would care not for such things.

For me it was less about the camera and more about the mandatory purchase. I own a 360, and Kinect has never once so much as even crossed my list of things I want to buy. Ignoring the publisher favoring DRM, my interest in the Xbox One was significantly lessened the moment they announced the Kinect requirement and…

Just because it's not required to be plugged in for the system to work doesn't mean they've reversed course on the Kinect. You still get one in the box, so that when a game requires a feature you have to plug it in.

It's also about the fact that a lot of people think the Kinect fucking sucks and don't want to use it anyways, and since they don't want to use it, they shouldn't have to pay $100 more for it.

This doesn't actually imply that. This just implies that yes, the console will be usable without having a specific peripheral plugged in. It would be like the WiiU allowing you to use the shopping application with the Wii remote instead of forcing you to use the tablet to use it.

After reversing every controversial feature, MS finally has a competitive cons-

I swear to god, all this backpedalling shows just how desperate Microsoft is, and I have a feeling that launch is going to be a complete disaster...

Now can you sell me one for $100 less without the Kinect? Pretty please?