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    @bdon: Because us gay guys can't appreciate engineering and know nothing about it? We all dress in pink and can't tell a camshaft from a tyre iron. I can't possibly know anything about engineering, despite the fact that I grew up driving my dads Escort RS Turbo and my granddads '61 Thunderbird.

    Personally, I like the new Mondeo. It is a hassle to keep the shiny bits around the gear stick nice and clean. But overall it is really great.

    Yeah, Williams have had it for years, but it is still cool. However it doesn't beat the McLaren Technology Center. If you want steril, high-tech and littered with racing cars, both Formula one and road cars, then Woking is your place.

    That is just plain cruel! Please just let me see one in real life, that would be enough.

    @scroggzilla raids again: The ADAC Rally was, for some stages, run on former military proving grounds. The surface was slippery concrete with what the germans call "hinkelsteine" on the side of the road used to stop runaway Leopard tanks. As far as I remeber, it was one of those hinkelsteine Solberg hit.