The Tesla video doesn’t make sense to me. Traction from the tires is going to be very important. The Tesla seems to have some variation of Wrangler MTR’s. I’ve had MTR’s on my Jeeps, and I can say the traction on pavement is barely acceptable (as is true with every mud terrain tire I’ve ever driven). I would think any…

Sounds like you’ve never driven a manual Jeep off road. Wranglers are geared low enough you don’t even need to use the clutch to start. A stock Wrangler can be butted up to a 1' ledge with the engine off. You can have your feet flat on the floor, simply turn the key, and the gearing will drive the Jeep up the ledge…

No, do something original, no more reboots! 

Interesting comparison, probably pretty accurate. If I had the extra money, I’d like to buy a YJ Sahara and do the Jurassic Park livery. Apparently I’ve been #overlanding my whole life since I take my Wrangler on camping trips.

Using that logic, GM should increase pay during a recession, because they’re planning for the good times ahead when the recession ends!

Here’s the problem -

There are 2 ferries across Lake Michigan.  The Lake Express and the Badger.  

I know people (myself included) who have considered the 4C, but the lack of a manual is a total deal breaker.  

Great article David. After reading it, I’m struggling to picture a trail that a Discovery cannot do, but a Defender can. (Other than water forging).  

I lost interest after the manual went away. Yet, here I am reading the article and commentating.

Exactly.  So much meh.  It does not look at all rugged nor classic like the old Defender.  Yet it also doesn’t look at all sporty or exciting like the new Range Rovers.  It just looks like a defender that’s been put in a rock tumbler.  

It is a bit of an odd vehicle, and understandably a tough sell. To me, at this point it’s really just a name. I can easily understand how many people would rather get a Sequoia or Tahoe, and save a bunch of money. Or get a Range Rover which is more sporty / less truck like. Or get the Lexus for a better badge, and…

I’m also curious what this would be like long term. The above video makes it sound like I couldn’t own an early Evora, but has quality improved for the later models?

So, when can I get one in the US with a manual, and a gasoline engine???

Simple, no manual means I won’t be buying it. Same reason why I don’t own an Alfa 4c. Looks I’ll be sticking with Porsche or maybe Aston Martin.  However, I bet it won’t take long for an aftermarket solution.  

I think it’s lame they ever stopped having parts available.  I think legally, they need to have parts for 10 years after production ends?  

I would be very happy if Brewers games were not allowed to start or finish during rush hour.  

I still believe it’s best to upgrade our power generation plants to be cleaner before telling everyone to buy an electric car.  

I wonder if Harley is one of the reasons the 2020 DNC will be in Milwaukee?

In Europe Harley’s are considered very high end and exclusive. The way we view Ferrari here.