That’s weird. The ones at my BMW dealer were running for closer to $430/mo with that much down.

I’d have it. X3s aren’t awful to drive. I had one as a service loaner when my E92 was in the shop, just the 2L, and it had sufficient pep. M-Sport package made it less wallowy. I imagine this would be similarly competent for a “mid-size” crossover, and it would certainly be damn quick with those powerplants. Too bad…

Yeah, but New Jersey, is New Jersey. Meaning nobody gives a shit what they think.

Tomato is a fruit.

I’d have one if they were just a little less money. Definitely not an old person car.

Your username is relevant to this discussion.

You missed the “reliable” part.

Same with the Fiat 124. It’s waaay up there, and I think only there because of the tire inflator kit.

I’d rather have the crossfeed, personally.

And the Alfa is 50% faster to 60 than the Miata. The Alfa also has almost 100 more hp than the Miata. The Alfa will also probably handle better, because it has better weight distribution, a wider track and a stiffer chassis, owing to that CF tub as well as the fact that it’s a coupe, not a roadster. Just because the…

4.2 second 0-60 time now slow. Good to know.

Fuck. I did not need to see this.

In Europe, the 4c is under 2000lb. It’s only in the United States of Freedom with all of our regulations that the 4C is 2400lb.

Doesn’t matter, it’s in an Alfa. Also, the gearbox is a Fiat unit. No ZF here.

Carbon fiber isn’t cheap. Making an entire car out of carbon fiber really isn’t cheap. The price is reflective of the materials used, in addition to the fact that it’s a low volume Italian sports car.

Or, you could have an LS, which is not much heavier, makes more power and will almost assuredly last longer with less maintenance. Plus, it’s a V8 in a little rear wheel drive coupe. I know LS swapping everything is overdone, but in this case, it’s the right way to go.

Except that LS swapping these is pretty easy. If memory serves, it even has the mounting points for it. The LS will be far more reliable too.

You think Italians would put the swill a Keurig dispenses in their bodies? No, it needs a full espresso machine.

I would say that a mass transit vehicle is part of infrastructure in a way.

Minor correction; the crash in Washington happened on Dec. 18, not in January.