She probably has a personal stylist, or at least a stylist that works with the family. And an etiquette coach. I imagine it being like The Princess Diaries but less makeovery.

I'm troubled. Today at a 4th of July party, I noticed my cousin's wife had a weird bruise. I'm a teacher, so it's just habit for me to ask what happened and whether someone's okay, and her answer was really evasive. I asked more directly, "Is someone hurting you?" and she admitted that my cousin had. As we talked…

I still don't get the anti-femininity Michelle Obama jabs, I thought the whole thing was that she's the most super fit and stylish First Lady since Jackie Kennedy?

So today one of my coworkers asked if the movie Independence Day is based on how we started celebrating the holiday, or if we just based the holiday on the movie. Then when I explained the American Revolution (in the simplest way I could) she asked me what a colony is.

Wow, are being sarcastic saying that Michelle has big arms and masculine features? B/c not rating much higher than Joan if you really think that.

I agree. She knows *exactly* what she's saying. She does it for effect — she's pathetic, tasteless, not at all funny and really quite grotesque.

I came here to say this! They'll be demanding to see her birth certificate because they won't believe she was really born on the 4th of July; that the story (and accompanying "fake" birth certificate) was manufactured to make the Obamas look extra patriotic. Ha ha ha!

What the fuck is wrong with you?

And it icks me out because of course, 'masculine' = athletic and strong. ....

That Joan Rivers is an old lady just means that she's been an asshole for decades.

I feel this way about most of her jokes.

PTSD?! Has this lady seen any other torture besides the one endured by her face?

Mrs Obama's arms are "big"? No, they are fit and slender. The president is also a lean, physically fit man, but due to the obesity epidemic is well below the average 35% body fat.

Michelle has "masculine features"? Exactly where?

I hope you mean dementia it's not clear what trauma, other than questionable plastic surgery, she's suffered. Personally, I think she's suffering from a case of attention whoritis.

tasteless, pointless and mean-spirited is the only shit that's come out of her mouth in 30 years.

Actually your "explanation "is was even more offensive

The reason she made the joke is because she's trying to get people to pay attention to her, and so the sexuality of the President and the appearance of the First Lady is open season. Also she's drawing on a long tradition of implying that strong black women are less feminine, and there are plenty on the far right who…

Exactly! It seems like a pretty well-worn trope that strong black women invariably have their femininity attacked. No surprise that this is playing well with the Tea People.

I still like that she's hands on with people and not just sitting and drinking her tea with a bunch of Washington WASPs.