I understand that you said "car"; however, most people who buy trucks like to pretend they are cars. Ergo, I will have to nominate—with much respect—the 2012 Ram 3500 diesel.

I actually know of at least three in rural Iowa that do.

Okay, so this is why you need to wake up—and I will be the one who WINS this discussion.

Weak? I know several gay dudes who could waste your ass.

*sad face*

The leather looked great for a few years, but is still mid-90s Ford leather... plasticy and wears dreadfully.

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I actually like that one.

What's a "jerb"?

That's why I stated "It's time for '80s retro".

I would still just buy either a Kia Rio 5 or Honda Insight, but I see Chevy Volts from time to time. I've only seen one Nissan Leaf here in Des Moines thus far.

How are you coming to the conclusion that he is straight OR conservative?

Exactly!

Must acquire.

I actually rather like it. It looks good.

I concur.

I thought the Allante` debuted a year prior to the TC...

Saab takes offense to that.

They had nice interiors. I actually considered getting one...until I saw the Villager/Quest's terrible side crash test ratings.

That's a really crappy and fat back-end. It looks like a used Volvo & Mazda 6 Sportwagon had drunken unprotected sex and this was the spawn...who has a binge eating disorder making it so fat since no one love it.