Well if you want to make the case that it is necessary to lie to get people to act I might agree with you. My point is that it is a lie. Those two things are consistent.

No where in what I was posting did I say nothing needs to be done. In fact I repeatedly said something should be done. But I wouldn’t expect you to actually understand what you are reading I guess.

Are you aware of the recent research that the animals are already adapting to the acidification and the projected impacts of it are already being tuned down? It s a couple years old.

That simply is not going to happen. Water in the developed world has been getting cleaner not dirtier, and the undeveloped world will likely soon start following that trend.

Literally every single person is going to die. We are all acceptable losses. It is a balancing act of cost benefit analysis. If you say the value of human life is priceless then it is zero. We have a limited number of resources and climate change is not the only problem we are facing.

Well that is clearly going to happen. It is just a fact at this point.

There will certainly be less drought, it is going to rain more. On that the science is unambiguous. Sure in localized areas there will be increases in droughts, but in aggregate drought will be less of a problem.

Actually believe it or not straight A’s at a major research university. Did you take any high level science classes? You understand that I am not arguing with the vast bulk of the science. Almost none of it really. I am arguing with the “speculation and impacts” section that is basically an opinion piece you see in a…

I am very educated on this subject. I am sorry I pointed out your links were garbage. Did you have an actual argument, or were you just planning on calling me names instead of admitting defeat?

Well that is a really strong argument.

Oh they sure will have a destabilizing effect of society. So did the internet. So does Iran. Climate change is a very serious problem, and we should be responding to it very seriously. But the scare mongering about “catastrophic impacts” (see some of the laughable articles people responding to me above linked) is way…

“These heat waves will only become more common as the planet continues to warm.”

Frankly you are making my point for me. This is exactly the type of irresponsible scare mongering I was attacking, and I appreciate you highlighting it for me.

That new scientist article is garbage. There is a ZERO% chance there is going to be a 7-11*C rise in temperature. NO ONE thinks we will let that happen. We would engineer a solution before that happens, and we will certainly have things under control before then anyway.

What truths am I denying exactly? I have been reading the science literature (actual journal articles) for decades. I am not claiming there won’t be climate change, there clearly is and has been for decades. I am not claiming it won’t change things or be bad for us.

“ If coral or phytoplankton populations collapse” Why would they collapse? The temperature on the earth was much higher than it is now for 85% of its history or more and those populations did fine. The current time period is an extremely cold one as far as biological history is concerned. Maybe they will do better…

I took a lot of science classes. It is fine in the context of human society continuing to exist. You should take a science class.

What we eat will be fine, we almost eat 100% domesticated foods, and those foods can adapt nearly as quickly as we can. There is this thing called science. Also you just wait, in 2100-2150 the evolutionary press is going to be just dominated by articles shocked shocked at how quickly the natural ecosystems are…

Why exactly do you think that? Do you think people are just going to start combusting when it hits 2*c in warming? Sure we should get our emissions under control, and warming is not “good”, but the idea that this is going to lead to the collapse of civilization, or even anything more than the normal migrations,…

Except the earth is not a body. The earth and we will be fine. Sure some cities might need to be relocated, a few thousands species will go extinct. Neither one of those things is unprecedented, and frankly habitat destruction and over-fishing are still more serious issues we inflict on the environment.