You know I never really thought about it. I would say both the original FF and Wasteland both were taking elements from tabletop RPGs rather than each other.

Both have influence other over the years. Final fantasy had elements of western made RPGs in the very beginning

Exactly, just like Dragon's Dogma. Both are western-influenced JRPGs that ended up being extremely well done. I think a lot of folks are just riding the hate way. I get that the story for the FFXIII isn't all that hot, but each game improved on the gameplay and linearity by a long shot.. and people still want to…

Anyone who uses the term haters seriously needs help. I don't care what Japan thinks, I thought the first two games blew, so I won't be touching this

I know the comment you are replying to was a little blunt, but do you really think that is how you promote discussion and debate?

"Hello, congressman. I'd like to discuss something..."

This is ridiculous. I didn't hate FFXIII because I'm a consistency-lovin' American who sits on my ass playing FPS all day. I hated it because it was a steaming pile of crap, a poorly told story with non-existent characters. Of course, some people like steaming piles of crap, and more power to them. Some people watch…

You are aware the story sucks right?

I've got more awesome games stacked up than I can possibly play. Like I'm playing Bravely Default right now, and it's fantastic. There's just no need to adapt myself to a bad game.

Haha, i laughed so hard at that. Kudos.

Or perhaps we genuinely just don't like them?

I'm fine with adapting. I'm not fine with both less content, and worse content than its predecessors. That isn't adapting, that's being a piece of shit cheapskate of a company who lost its ability to be original.

THOSE BAKA GAIJINS DON"T GET IT KAWAI DESU (^_^) JAPAN CAN DO NO WRONG. THE NARRATIVE ISN'T DISJOINTED AND CONVOLUTED, ITS JUST 2DEEP4U. ALL OF THE STYLISH POSTURING IS PART OF THE STORYLINE.

Bravely Default confirmed to be the best Final Fantasy game we get this year.

Or maybe the west just stopped giving it a pass, unlike Japan just because its Final Fantasy.

YEEEEEEEEEUP.

Remember when "Final Fantasy" meant "this is going to be a great experience"?

This was a hard one to write. I got a little bit sniffly putting the review box together.

So basically, All versions of Final Fantasy XIII are don't bother playing. Gotcha.