YES THANK YOU for your final paragraph. I am also in this boat. I saw the initial story and just felt dread in the pit of my stomach.....I understand how difficult it can be to say no and I empathize and believe Grace’s story. I also don’t think Ansari is a ‘predator’ in the same way many recently outed men have…

Nothing has totally erased this. The issue is this encounter, where the woman willingly gave Aziz not one but two blowjobs, was a bad date, and now a fringe group wants to lump this in with the #metoo movement. When she finally verbalized to him she was uncomfortable, he immediately called her a cab.

I agree that calling him a predator seems inaccurate and I do think this requires a more nuanced conversation about how men and women go about interacting in sexual and romantic situations.

Why isn’t the conversation that men need to learn not to take advantage of people’s obvious discomfort

This is what gets to me about this story. He apologized and left her alone. What else does she want out of this? If there are multiple stories that show a pattern from Aziz, then let’s hear that. I’m sorry she had to go through this on a date but I also don’t know what recourse she wants from him.

It’s difficult to effectively communicate that I believe Grace, I think the #metoo and #timesup movements are not working as well as the should be, and that I don’t think Ansari is a predator in the sense of the men who’ve been called out before him.

I think the difference is that the older generation of feminism was about empowerment while today is it about being a passive victim unable to make decisions or take responsibility.

the editors of Babe were . . . courting a bad faith conversation

This is a generational misunderstanding too. I know everyone is in a rush to dismiss the opinions of anyone over 35, but you’ll notice a divide in the reactions. #old

This was a bad date. She had a horrible date with a clueless guy who thought he was being sexy and hot. She was made to feel uncomfortable, and it wasn’t right.

Jesus.

Anyone else noticing the trend that the women who are coming out to cry about how wrong #MeToo and other campaigns are all tend to be of a certain older age and higher social class?

I hope Paul Sorvino gives Harvey $3,200 and then tries to have him whacked.

My Dad was best friends with Paul Sorvino’s first cousin, he is the genuine article NJ Paisan and I love this!

“Dont make a jerk outta me”

“If I’d known it, he would not be walking. He’d be on a wheelchair.”

Because nursing homes are absolute hellscapes?

Someone should write a book about Trump and call it “ Citation Needed”.

I think this might be an unconscious part of Bono’s little rant, there: he knows he’s getting older. And let’s face it; rock and roll? The lifestyle, the energy needed to produce it and drag your ass on endless tours and write and rehearse and record? It’s for the young.

This.