There are thousands of talented people who are not shitty people.

You can be a horrible person whose horribleness affects other people, who makes great art. But your horribleness should keep you from being rewarded for that greatness.

+1 for trying to avoid supporting people who treat other people like garbage. Sometimes it means that I miss out on an album, or film or book, but as you said - there are many decent human beings who also make great art/contributions to society, and why not support them?

We don’t. There are thousands of talented people who are not shitty people. No work of art is so important that you have to see it and support a horrible human.

Is it a debate? Seems like the answer is yes, obviously. The real question is how much do we need to ignore their shitty behavior in order to celebrate/enjoy/fund their art.

he stayed, shipped the product and left. He didn’t want to leave the rest of the employees to dangle. We went back and forth about this but his sense of loyalty to his team was very big.

I used to work for a computer security company in Northern Virginia that was largely ex-military/ex-intel (I was an exception); probably about 65 percent male. The head of our (pretty large) department was an African-American woman who was hyper-competent and simultaneously beloved and mildly feared — she said jump,…

One thing I absolutely adored about my last company was that everyone was expected to take their own goddamned notes.

The closest I ever came was a Rottweiler that was so happy at being petted that he stuck his paw down my shirt. I disentangled him with a now now, we’ve barely been introduced! Which was funny because it was a LITERAL DOG. Not a human who is allowed outside unsupervised on a daily basis.

“You’re so black, you blend into the chair.”

And God knows how many actresses lose jobs if they just get labeled “difficult”

And Winona Ryder spent an entire decade relegated to b list supporting roles...for shop lifting.

Anecdote from my husband in tech:

The tapes are the thing that really get to me; he wishes actual rape and death on his ex-girlfriend. He’s frightening because the anger is so palpable, it’s almost a physical presence.

Same here. Even if you don’t have horrible stories (which I do), people can be completely dismissive of how lonely it can be to be the only woman (or I would assume POC). Even if the men are nice and work friends, they aren’t as inclusive as they are to other men. The casual conversation about the weekend that leads…

And for one episode in the back of a police car on eight double tequilas to sort of dictate all the work, life’s work and beliefs and everything else that I have and maintain for my life is really unfair

That’s stupid. Women don’t drop out of STEM because they’re not encouraged to pursue it. They drop out because it’s an unwelcoming environment for women. Unless there are structural changes, nothing will change.

Ya’ll looking for complicated origins for common, essential human problems. Men don’t see women as human beings, and you’re expecting an industry that worships masculinity to somehow correct itself. It starts very early in life, boys learn that girls are bad, young men learn that women are vessels for cum, men learn…

Blaming education or a lack of minorities interested in tech minimizes the stories of people who have been driven out of their fields by this toxic environment.

I can honestly say that I have never had a sincerely meant hug go so wrong that it ended with a hand up my shirt. WTF?