Everyone who defends frats/ sororities always has the same four fucking defenses:

Yes. This kind of thinking seems to take the most floridly emotional language and behaviors: all the “bonding” and forever sloganing and crap and use them as a substitute for actual feelings and thought. So you end up “bonded FOR LYFE” with a bunch of random people you don’t even have much in common with, or even…

Maybe? It all depends on how and when he received what injuries but I can promise he wouldn’t have bled out over hours while in pain, terrified, unable to call for help and surrounded by sociopaths who amused themselves by beating him slowly to death.

This is what I really worry about with sororities and fraternities. 18 - 21 is a time when, from a developmental standpoint, people should be learning really specific social skills: How to build friendships on the basis of individual compatibility instead of institutional affiliation. How to be friends with people of…

Fucking fraternities. The Greek system is ridiculous at best, deadly at worst. Yeah, yeah, come at me with your stories about the lifelong friendships and networking and charity work - most of us manage to do those things without also needing secret rituals and silly cliques. It’s all bullshit that encourages groups…

I think my plan for my kid is that I won’t provide financial assistance if he joins a fraternity. If I’m paying for him to go to school, I’m paying for him to go to school, not to party or forget his morals and human decency in the wake of group think.

It doesn’t work that way. Schools can be academically rigorous and still have a rampant binge-drinking culture. They’re not mutually exclusive.

I was in a sorority for about two and a half years before quitting in my senior year of college, and thinking about the kinds of things that were “normal” gives me shudders. Girls are different in that they’re usually not as violently cruel as boys, but some of the things that some sororities did was awful and…

I fell 15 feet down a flight of steps recently, and if my sister hadn’t heard the noise and investigated immediately, I’d have died as well. Think back on the old mysteries you used to read: there’s always some evil heir pushing someone down a flight of steps to kill them. And it works REALLY consistently.

I read about this elsewhere and it included the horrifying detail that they found 80% worth of his body’s blood in his abdominal cavity. So he was internally bleeding while these little bitches tried to cover their asses.

Not just to die. To die a horrible, disoriented, agonisingly painful, slow death.

Abolish all frats and sororities.

College greek system just needs to just go away. I was in a fraternity and was spared the normal hazing issues, only because the frat I joined had just been re-chartered and was scared of making waves. I used it as a means to get socially “out there” and my experience was fine & beneficial for the social reasons I…

I don’t think a single person would be negatively effected if fraternities and sororities were all permanently disbanded forever. 

Yes everything created and ran by the government is still part of it. And while schools have more leeway on some things (censoring school newspapers, preventing disruption in schools) they are indeed still legally a part of the government. SCOTUS has been fairly clear on that. The rulings on School prayer and the…

But they do not in full apply: “School activities. Although students at public schools still have the right to First Amendment free speech, their rights may not be as extensive as the rights of adults. For example, in a 1988 Supreme Court case, the court ruled that students’ free speech rights weren’t violated when…

Except as a public school it’s actions constitute government actions (and case law supports that). So while that XKCD is right, your interpretation of it seems inaccurate.

Yeah but those agreements aren’t always admissible. You can’t sign away your 1st amendment rights (someone can correct me if I’m wrong)

• Not to speak (specifically, the right not to salute the flag).
  West Virginia Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943).

Issue here is that it’s a public school. This isn’t going to be as cut-and-dried as someone ejecting a racist asshat from a ballfield, or pulling funding from a controversial creator’s work.