I saw one of these up close last week at a dealership, and it looks like a mini van that someone raised. I am the target audience for this car and I would not be caught dead driving it. It is dreadful looking. 

What? How is this not manslaughter?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I hate SUVs/Crossovers/Pickups. They’re too tall, too large, and get horrible MPGs without any of the “fun factor” you get from quick cars (unless you’re talking about an M/AMG/SQ/etc.).

This sounds sponsored. The Santa Fe attempts to look like a Land Rover, but looks very eastern bloc and drives like a tall crossover. All hat, no cattle.

Can we just, like, not be dicks to each other? This is so very, very stupid. Even small children would tell you this is stupid. And now a man is dead because (alleged) adults’ egos were bigger than a $10 bill.

A VW Beetle:

Vehicles shouldn’t be able to move without:
1. alcohol monitoring tech
2. Seatbelts secured for each occupied seat

I’m not taking questions, thanks.

Comfort needn’t be souless. My 328! wagon has all the soul in the world, while still being superbly involving and comfortable. My Mercedes is not far behind.

I’ll define what soul is much more succinctly. It’s feedback. Feedback felt through the wheel, brake pedal, gas pedal, and the sounds you hear. The road and engine noise indicates speed and accelerating force. I understand that too much feedback can be exhausting and irritating, but the correct amount is not zero or…

“Define what you mean by soul.”

Go watch James May Oh Cook on Prime too if you haven’t already. Just James being James the entire time and it’s great.

Most modern cars are soulless though. It isn’t unique to EVs.

Absolutely Toronto (Pearson). I know because I live in this city and so virtually every time I travel I have to use it. The departure areas are all overcrowded but so is every other airport so that’s not what makes it the worst. It’s the arrival level. Customs is brutally disorganized; the multiple lineups, the lack…

$50,000, but that’s also back when college cost around $10k per year and people were doing dumb shit like saving enough to pay for all 5 years, then getting student loans and using the savings to buy a car.

I’d buy an LC tomorrow if I could afford it. Unfortunately it’s priced wrong. At that price, you’ve either got young trust fund kids buying Porsches, or old farts like me buying LS’s. ;)

Brilliant response. If your attention span is insufficient to read six paragraphs, then just skip it and keep making stupid statements like you usually do.

This. People looking for a new Supra were not looking for a BMW Z4, even if it is quite good.

What do you mean hurr durr is a BMW. It IS a BMW. The engine is BMW. The chassis is BMW. It’s built in the same factory as a BMW. Its VIN tag has a BMW logo on it.

You know what?  It’s not an attractive car.  It looks like a fish.  There, I said it.