“When you beat your case, you beat your case,”

And a marriage certificate.

As I said elsewhere, is it really a rumour when there’s videotape?

I believe he can lie.

America is really getting a deep deep intensive crash course in gaslighting. Lets lock up Trump and R Kelly together so they can just spin the insanity together and leave us alone. 

But it’s in the second clip that Kelly really starts to unravel, shrieking at King that it would be “stupid” of him to lock up and sexually assault underage girls.

It honestly has, I just wished for one thing in his early childhood to be less than entirely aweful 

Has it occurred to anyone that McCaulkin could possibly still be covering things up due to the same grooming happening to him? 

It’s been gross seeing comments just repeating the narrative that MJ was just childlike, so that’s why he was sleeping with little boys. I really wonder how anyone could believe that knowing what we now know about abuse. 

I don’t know, as yet another survivor of CSA, who has never gotten love and patience and empathy from a partner about it, they do seem special. What one deserves is often a far cry from the reality of what most people are willing to provide. 

Uh, yeah they are...from a fellow CSA survivor. Switch your POV and keep in mind the PTSD/Anxiety/bouts of crippling Shame/self deprecation...none of which is easy to get a handle on for the CSA far more a “non” CSA to wrap their heads around. So again...Yes anyone who can see past their own “drama” and still see or…

I am sure this special is super well done, and I did watch that clip, and Oprah is absolutely asking the right questions.

The responses to the documentary have been pretty upsetting, but I have to admit that #canceloprah gave me a laugh. Y’all think Oprah’s getting cancelled because of this documentary? Fat fucking chance.

One of the most insidious things about sexual abuse is that the trauma inflicted on the victim causes behavior that people use to discredit them. For instance, the victim vehemently defending the abuser is actually one of the potential symptoms of abuse. It’s a result of the grooming and of the desperate need for the…

Whew. All of this was a tough watch. What was also tough was watching the rabid MJ fan base lose their minds and threaten everyone involved in this documentary, including Oprah for giving these men a platform to discuss their lives. I saw so many “cancel Oprah” posts on Twitter, I lost count. It’s amazing how some…

Adding this hour was brilliant. Oprah really managed to connect the harrowing story, carefully told in the documentary, to the experience of other victims; to the millions of child sexual abuse survivors whose abuser wasn’t famous, by showing how the pattern of grooming is essentially the same (ie the story told by…

I’m sorry that happened to you. You did not deserve it. Sending you thoughts of healing and support.

No fault of hers, of course, but also not a level playing field - and sports assumes that there is one.