To balance things out a bit, here’s how bad British cars were during that same period:

I’m really not that into these cars but strangely I want the green Charger. I thought I’d never say that!

Maybe they did this for the opposite reason - to actually ATTRACT attention? Like this article sort of does.

I just read your other comments. You’re the one making assumptions all day long around here about what people say in private etc. How would you possibly know what’s said in private if it’s indeed private?

It’s a stupidly pointless exercise that can ONLY result in a pissed off customer from the get go. Why even bother attempting to mislead anyone when it’s going to have to be revealed in the end.

Are you SERIOUSLY suggesting that Harley Davidson was in great shape until Trump came along? Do you think you’re surrounded by idiots who would actually believe that tripe? Get a grip and move on.

Especially with prices close to new ones. It’s insane!

It’s old news at this point. I just expect them to bring Trump into everything. If sausage sales fell in a remote part of New Zealand they’d still say something like ‘..and Trumps X didn’t help’.

I was wondering the same thing. In an era of MASSIVE distraction it just seems way to unsafe to be on a bike unless out in the middle of nowhere.

Haha yes maybe I am looking too far into the future on this!

You’re correct that they’ve managed to develop around it with ‘weight training’ in testing if we could call it that but fundamentally I just disagree with it in principle. I think if we applied that logic to other areas of competition it just wouldn’t seem remotely fair - example Man United etc back in the day when…

Yeh good idea. Then they can add weight penalties to the successful teams to really make it artificially close and piss off the fans. While they’re at it why not get into Soccer\football and force players on the most successful teams to wear heavier clothing and boots just to even things out. Yes great idea you’ve got…

Because it suits their narrative. 

That was V good.

That mpg seems a bit high. Isn’t that worse or similar to a Suburban? Anyone know for sure?

More like a 0.8L 3cyl Ecoboost with 6 turbos and a 21st speed Shimano gear set.

That’s awesome. How much of a discount did they give you? Were they begging you to take the car?

You’ve proved my point by assuming I’m from the USA and therefore attached all sorts of labels to me - i.e completely illogical. I’m not from the USA. I still stand by my original comments regardless of your opinion. Bottom line is that you think anyone with an opinion different to you is a racist which again is…

Which one is the Lego one?!

You missed the point entirely. Sigh.....