That is so awkward, but kind of true. :/

I am always the pedantic jerk who says that! Quit stealing my job!

I will say I am glad they called it a murder-suicide. Let’s stop pretending all those people went willingly. The 200 kids didn’t, and based on that heinous audio and the fact that there were dudes with guns, I think plenty of the adults would have not…

I see your broader point. I also find your hostility off-putting. I made a million comments, and I tried to express why I felt dissastisef by the film. I think you’re being hypocritical and condescending and trying to control a conversation in a bizarre way. I am NOT the person up-thread who was acting as if enjoying…

I feel you. It is good to know I am not alone! As I said, I love Game of Thrones, but I like it for its masochism. Star Wars is supposed to feel different. And I liked almost all the new characters as well. The hurting of the old, beloved ones was a distraction from getting to know and like the new ones (that and the…

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I agree with all of this. I liked the new characters! But the movie was timid for all that.

Fair point. I just think it’s unfair to drag someone into a new series when he survived the old one, and then kill him off.

Ford’s like 72. Hollywood thinks 72-year-old men should be outrunning explosions and fucking 28-year-old women. Yet everyone keeps talking about Han as if he was crumbling to dust before our eyes.

I didn’t want to see Han again. Or the rest of the trio. Dying in the original movies is one thing. Coming back just to die…

That reminds me of a movie I really love.

At the time I was just baffled it had happened. Killing off a lovable character so abruptly and coldly is scary. Whedon is a an evil genius. You can’t predict that kind of death, because there’s no last moment to it. It just happens.

Clearly that’s the guy who gave us the un-rewatchable “Buffy” where her mom dies.

There’s something about bringing him back just to kill him off 35 years later that drives me nuts. And he is really, really high on my list of treasured characters on film. Hard to think of one that would have upset me more to see killed off.

I agree. You need tension. You need more than Red Shirts killed. But some…

This isn’t real life, thank goodness.

I want “realism” to a point. And if we are pretending each fictional character is real, then they have a death. It doesn’t mean I want to see every fictional character’s death. Or their unhappiness.

This is the internet. This is literally a comments section on a website.

Touche. What I meant to say was, I was pessimistic already, meaning that no, I wasn’t going in with wildly OVER-inflated hopes.

No, you’re a troll because you’re a complete asshole for no reason.

But I guess I can see how working in movies would make you jaded. I’ve read a lot of shit about World War II over the years. I understand what real life sadness is about. That doesn’t mean I didn’t have a connection to a fictional space rogue.

Mary Sue isn’t the right term, I guess. But she was still dripping in lazy, meta wish fulfillment in a movie that was all about that. Oh, she gets to pilot the Millemium Falcon and go see Luke! Who the fuck doesn’t want to do that and be that?

I am so frustrated because I liked her, Finn, Poe, even EvilPantsMcGirls.…

A New Hope lifts from other movies, old serials, other culture, with great love. The Force Awakens lifts from...Star Wars.

See, I had only seen eight episodes of Firefly at that point. I was upset, but not devestated. I liked it at the time because the two deaths in Serenity made me fear for every other charater. This? This was Ford being satisfied at last, and Abram going “yes, people love Game of Thrones and stuff where people they like…

Except it’s the frustrating type of special where everyone thinks you’re insane, and you grumble in confusion over whether you even watched the same movie. It’s not that fun.

I am even more mad at the movie because nobody seemed as upset as I was after watching.

Give me Finn, Rey, Poe, and BB8 in a movie that looks that lovely, but isn’t exactly the same as New Hope in the end. And do not give me Han Solo and then kill him. Fuck you. I watch Game of Thrones in order to be traumatized, but…