I’ll bet you think Jewish people are total drama queens about the Holocaust, too.

You sound like you picked an all girls school as an insult deliberately

The very fact that you call them “Indians” says everything. I wasn’t aware that India was located in the Northern Hemisphere...

I mean, I should just kill your family, burn down your house, and force you to move to some other place where you have no idea what’s happening and then do the same shit for your kids (if you have any after that).

I’m sure as you were typing this it felt like you were making a salient point but 1) your anecdote is just that and therefore not pertinent on its own to the topic at hand 2) lumping all American Indians/Indigenous Americans/Native Americans and their motivations and needs under one label based on your anecdote is…

Its their name - if they don’t want Jeep to use it, they have every right to ask Jeep not to.

Uranium in the drinking water of the Navajo Nation in southern Arizona. Having oil pipelines routed through their lands after the white folks of the Dakotas said NIMBY. (That would be DAPL.) Oh and that time that Native folks in Oklahoma found oil, used it to generate their own wealth, and subsequently had it stolen…

It’s really pretty simple. Jeep’s profiting off of the Cherokee name because of it’s association with “nobility” and “ruggedness” (inarguably in part because of the products to which it’s been attached, but that’s incidental), whereas the people who are associated with the Cherokee name--you know, the Cherokee--are…

Hahahaha, straight to mask off racism at the slightest provocation, huh?

“You could argue they’ve earned the right if anyone has, but that wasn’t the people here now and the problems they face are more directly the result of their own mismanagement.”

Bull fucking shit. Indigenous people have been fucked by the US government time and time again. And when they do manage to become successful…

“victim card”
“it’s basically their own fault”

You’re the hero of your Proud Boys chapter.

That didn't sound smart.

This is racist.

You are a racist.

this is monumentally stupid, even for an internet message board.

It most certainly is a negotiation. I’ve worked with an Indian tribe and they’ve become very adept at playing the victim card. Usually it’s a shakedown for a payout; then they start to infighting over which of their own factions get it. See casinos, Keystone XL Pipeline, literally any government social program and now…

Well said. As the Tesla leadership team says constantly (including today) on their quarterly earnings calls: They don’t expect the credits to last forever and they don’t rely on them. Eventually, some OEMs will have successfully started manufacturing enough EVs to offset their ICE cars, and the others (I’m looking at…

I think the argument is that regulatory credits are not a sustainable source of income - that within the near future, the competition will have caught up and no longer need to buy environmental credits from Tesla. Which is not incorrect! If Elon isn’t planning on a future where Tesla sells zero credits, he’s an idiot.

Money is money, and when their Berlin factory is up and running they can supply the Euro market without having to ship in their cars from another continent, which means lower expenses and more profits.

Decades? You don’t have to go back decades... There’s been lots of talk about their crappy sequential gearboxes, bad engines, and let’s not forget dieselgate, which killed tons of people. Not that tons of people don’t die of car exhaust anyway. But hey, gassers can do that, because...reasons! Let’s all whine about…

It looks like they’re gonna be having a whole lot of profitable quarters, based off all the scrambling other automakers are doing to obtain regulatory credits in Europe.