You’re reaching and bringing in topics that have no bearing on this conversation.

No, but she abetted escaping slaves. The point of my post is that the hurdles and barriers to immigration in America are both unfair and driven by animus, not any kind of good sense. There is no civil justification for many of the laws. Studies have shown that immigration to this country is of net benefit to the…

I am judging you based upon the ignorant things that you say. If that is a problem, then perhaps you shouldn’t act the fool. Your position is basically the hard-line conservative position, complete with talking points. It is not a sign of “critically thinking” when you wade into a topic where you cannot even get the…

Are you of the belief that all laws are inherently moral by virtue of being laws? Genuinely curious.

He’s breaking the law!!! This is really just too much. For the most part I’m liberal but this is just crazy.

This happened to my dad recently. He was born in Germany but moved here with his parents when he was a kid, so he was naturalized under their citizenship and had no papers of his own. A few years ago, he was trying to do some kind of paperwork with the state government and they tried to tell him he wasn’t a US…

Hell, I was born in the US, but even I’m afraid to leave the country because I have visas from four research trips to Sudan in my passport. Suddenly worried about going to a conference in Canada the end of next month.

The worst part is that if the guy had been born in, say, Western Europe, his being born outside the US wouldn’t matter one lick to these people. He’d never even be on their radar.

Because the law is unjust and cruel, and furthermore, does not make good economic sense. Just because something is the law doesn’t make it right. Slavery was legal. Harriet Tubman was breaking the law.

Most of those issues are “legal” people taking advantage of undocumented people. Yet, you blame them for it. You use one situation of “medical fraud” to suggest that this is something systemic. How do you know an “illegal” is using your address?

Yeah, you’re not liberal. If so, you would understand that violating immigration laws is different from committing criminal acts. Further, you would understand that DACA is still in force, so he is not breaking the law. That the immigration system is set up in a way that disproportionately affects specific classes of…

Well I . . . envy you your optimism.

He’s here legally under DACA and has a work permit so that means he is a DOCUMENTED immigrant at this time. What law is he breaking?

The Germans kicked people out of their countries in the same way after Hitler came to power. One woman who came to the Netherlands as a little girl after WWI, and who was raised and fostered by a Dutch family, was Hermine Santruschitz. She married her fiance Jan Gies sooner than planned so she could stay in the…

I’m not going to argue with the idiot you responded to but I just wanted to point out... if you were brought here as a CHILD you are not breaking the law. Your parents did. And there is NO current pathway to citizenship from there. There are NO extraordinary hoops to jump through it’s insane to argue we should send…

DACA recipients were brought over as children through no fault of their own. They are currently legal. For many people using DACA, there is zero path to citizenship at this point. And currently DACA is the law and they are not breaking the law because they are legally allowed to remain here and work or go to school.…

He IS protected by the law, DUMBASS.

Oh please, I break the law every single day. You know what I do, I speed. The speed limit on one road is 40, I frequently go 45.

No, he’s not breaking the law right now. He’s here legally under DACA, which is still in force.

I became a naturalized citizen at 15 so I have no paperwork that proves I’m a citizen except for my passport and reading that statement sent a chill down my spine.