Yup. Equal opportunity objectification is detrimental to feminist goals. Which is why when "feminist" blogs and their readers do it, it's doubly unfortunate. (Yes yes, it's nowhere near the amount of objectification thrown at women, but that's not the point here.)

Is this a surprise to anyone???? I quit supporting them when they started attacking minority and muslim women (aka myself). They have been so transparently disingenuous and harmfull to women and the feminist movement. Aminah Tyler dismissed them months ago.

Everyone involved is just super gross. I don't even care to rank them, they're all way, way down there. I think it's important to note, however, that both Weiner and Leathers are informed, consenting adults who knew exactly what they were doing. Neither took advantage of the other, there is no victim here. Just gross…

We live in a global society, so it is important to consider originally non-western/Anglo-American traditions, even when we're located in a westernized country. Just my perspective as an anthropologist. Also, as others pointed out, this is also an Italian and Polish tradition, so I'm fairly comfortable saying no dice…

Thing is, in the US culture is really varied. There was another comment that said that Poles and Italians give money, too. I think it's a pretty peculiar Anglo-Saxon tradition, actually. You could argue that WASP culture is in effect "American" culture, but it's pretty presumptuous also to argue that "this is the way…

Or maybe you're just a classist white snob with no taste and a sense of entitlement as big as your McMansion?

Americans are horrible when it comes to understanding this concept. Carolyn Hax at WaPo etc are incredibly stuck up about cash.

What's funny to me, having lived a while in Japan and Korea, is how Americans pass money from hand-to-hand like it's nothing, but they won't give cash as a gift.

Yep. I'm of Asian descent, so it's all about the money, money money.

The white population of America really needs to get on board with the red envelope.

I don't know why you're getting so much flack for being honest. I believe slut-shaming is wrong and would never talk shit to a woman just for being promiscuous, but I don't want a friend who is going to fuck all my other friends. It just gets messy and weird.

I can imagine not wanting to be friends with a woman who sleeps around a lot because I would be afraid that all men we meet would have sex with her even before paying any attention to me.