JarrodBo
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JarrodBo

I didn’t say anything about this was feminist. I argued the opposite, actually. And I didn’t stalk her. I wanted to, though, and I’m confessing that in order to praise this article’s worth in the complex dialogue between my desire to be a better person and feminist and the systematic misogyny that I’ve internalized.

I have never told this story here or anywhere else before, but part of my point was that this is a common reaction, fueled by the internalizing of systematic misogyny, so it doesn’t surprise me that more people have talked about feeling this way. But those people aren’t me. This is my one and only story, and I wanted

Well, my lunch break is over, so I can’t properly discuss this, but I have to say I’m confused by your response. The incident described just happened in June (and I’ve been inactive for a year, indicated by my activity). And even if it were made up (it isn’t), how is it trolling?

Um, what?

I am a person who considers himself a progressive feminist, yet I was recently blocked by a female celebrity, and my reaction was similar—emotionally, not pragmatically. I didn’t harass the celebrity who blocked me.

I really wish you would link to or at least hint at the Fatal Distractions article to indicate that the charge of murder (or any criminal charge) is controversial. Maybe policy dictates you can't, but it's weird to single this guy out when this happened 40-something times in 2013...

Yes, this is where we disagree, because as I tried to explain with my metaphor, trying to create awareness doesn't necessarily mean stereotyping, and saying "not all men" or "not all drivers" simply doesn't add anything to awareness conversations. I know some people stereotype, but that's not what's happening when I

Drivers are people. Some drivers hit motorcycles, yet ALL drivers should be aware of motorcycles. Sorry you didn't understand the parallel.

That is not a very good analogy because POCs actually can point to specific instances of being profiled/marginalized because they live in a culture that's white-dominant, but it's more subtle than the straw-man arguments you've formulated. Those would be insane, but complaints that are closer to reality are

Just to be out in the open about everything, I am a straight, white, cisgendered, married father who rides motorcycles regularly. And, because it's Memorial Day, I also feel the need to brag that I'm a former infantry soldier and VFW. Just so you know where this is coming from.

I guess my point is that recognizing inherent, systematic misogyny isn't stereotyping men at all, so the "not all men" reaction is dumb, just like recognizing the inherent danger of not checking for motorcycles isn't stereotyping all car drivers. It's just an awareness issue that some take personally and react as if

You're kind of all over the place in this comment. First of all, we agree that if the car driver breaks the law, then he's responsible. But there's no parallel for the motorcyclist not obeying the law unless you're suggesting that being a woman can be a criminal act. Because that's how the parallel works. "Look Twice"

I am not a mental health expert, so I cannot speak to that. You make some very fine points that, if true, don't change anything. If misogyny weren't so rampant, he might have still caused a rampage, but the rampage wouldn't have seemed so familiar to so many people who have to live with everyday, institutionalized

Except that the anti-misogyny movement is about systemic (not individual) trends of sexism. Examples are used only to point out that sexism is condoned by society, not that all men are anything. This is why this trend is about ALL WOMEN, not all men, and it never has been about all men. It's about the women who have

Or you're too foolish to understand that it adds nothing to the discussion.

Let's say we were to take your assessment (that the rider is responsible) to the streets where a bike is hit by a car. Do you prosecute the bike? Do you tell the biker s/he asked for it and then refuse to find the driver of the car? This is what we do to victims of misogyny, though. So, again, be careful, but don't

Straw man arguments are easy to make, and easier to dismiss. Now, just because someone makes a logical fallacy doesn't necessarily make them wrong (what would that be? fallacy fallacy?) but this particular example has no bearing in any semblance of reality.

As a rider, I am careful, but I'm damn sure not "responsible" or at fault if someone hits me.

When something like this happens, sometimes people emotionally vent in online spaces, and you're right—that's not always productive. However, I stand by both of the tenets of my original assessment of your comment: generalizing women AND the lack of recognition of institutionalized misogyny are exactly the things that

Whenever I see criticism of misogyny, though, I don't see individual citations or personal attacks on men. I see examination of societal norms. This is very different from individual attacks. Just like in my analogy, the "look twice" campaign doesn't aim its sights on individual drivers personally, but at driving