The question is whether the $20k Tesla charges is for a retrofit or from the factory.  I don’t honestly know, but as a retrofit it makes a bit more sense.

Holy crap, David Tracy is about to become the richest man in Michigan!

The questions is whether what Tesla is offering/advertising is on par with what their competitors are advertising, and in the case of brakes I would say it’s a pretty clear-cut “no”.  Compare the brakes on a Taycan Turbo S and a Model S Plaid and you’ll see what I mean.

Agreed.  I do wonder how long that farce would have gone on had Max not jammed on the brakes.

A more apt comparison is how a top of the line Porsche Taycan Turbo S would do at the test, since that is the closest competitor to the Model S Plaid.

Toyobarus are not track cars out of the box, and apparently neither is the Plaid.  I think that’s really the main point here, along with how Tesla thinks carbon ceramic brakes are somehow worth $20k.

The main difference is Max didn’t know Hamilton was at his back-right corner when turning in, while Hamilton had a clear view of the side of Verstappen’s car barreling through the corner each time. Verstappen didn’t know it would cause a wreck, Hamilton definitely did.

Hah, I was kidding, I’m not planning to ever sell it. And it has 151k miles total, 125k more than the one offered above.

While I don’t disagree with your proposed solutions, why is it such a deal breaker for you?

I believe it’s just the saves that are required to be stored online. You can play all you want, but can’t save. Really not an issue unless we’re talking 10 years from now when they pull save server support, at which point hopefully they can flip a switch to allow local saves.

Typically they’ll give the place back in the next corner or two, and if not they don’t intend to unless the stewards get involved. In this case they got involved, and I believe the rules currently state it needs to be done at the nearest safe opportunity.

Were we watching the same race? Max lifted basically all the way down the straight. From Lewis’ onboard you can hear him slowing down as he got closer and closer to Max. It wasn’t until Lewis parked himself basically in Max’s bumper that Max hit the brakes and Lewis swerved to avoid. Hitting the brakes was probably…

My GTO is a manual but has a few more miles, you interested at $33k?

Why do you need to drink coffee, eat food, or use your phone while commuting?  All of which I can do just fine in my manual, by the way, but I choose not to.

How was Max supposed to know turning in would cause a crash? He left space for Hamilton’s car on the inside, Hamilton didn’t quite make the corner as well as Verstappen thought he would.

I suppose that’s one way to look at it, but Copse is a much higher speed corner than any of the ones Verstappen has dive-bombed. It’s a bit of a bigger deal to run wide there than on Turn 1 of Jeddah. I see the similarity to Brazil, but the difference is Hamilton was all the way back at Verstappen’s rear wheel going…

It’s usually not a problem because if the car in the car in front slows, the guy chasing him typically passes excitedly.  The reason that didn’t happen this time is because Hamilton knew Max was slowing before the DRS zone and didn’t want to play his game, so he just tucked in behind.  Max got frustrated and said…

While I agree, this hasn’t been an issue before and I’m sure they’ve followed the same process in the past. The real point to be made here is Lewis actually figured out what was going on pretty quickly (he’s a smart guy) and decided he didn’t WANT to pass Verstappen at that point on track for the exact reason…

“If Max just let Lewis by, this championship would be over already, but he couldn’t do that, he needed to WIN, at all costs, even if it doesn’t make any long term sense”

After slowing for the entire straight before that point?  Yeah.  No reason to be tucked up behind a slow car like that.