That's not a good enough analogy. A better one would be "your friend comes and asks for $100 and in return he gives you a cool desktop wallpaper and tells you that you won't ever get anything besides that back for your money...and you agree anyway"

When all is said and done, does any other angle really matter?

They got the item they originally put money toward anyway so I don't get the point of asking for a refund. Everyone already got their first run of the product or the dev edition and they were already working on the 2.0 so the kickstarter has long passed.

It's always been clear that funding a project on Kickstarter is more donation than investment—there's no financial return, and no legal recourse if someone takes your money and runs—but we've never seen anything on this scale before. Without that Kickstarter money, Oculus might have not been able to attract any of the…

People paid for a dev kit. They got a dev kit.

It was an accident caused by factors that would not have been in play had the speed not been dangerous and unreasonable. Saying speed caused the crash is perfectly fine to me.

Worst sandbox ever

Time is a flat circle, Tim.

In that Villanova-Villanova matchup, I think I like Villanova. Because there are some serious questions about Villanova, and I think Villanova can exploit that.

Paying someone else to change the oil and service my car.

Those are all done. Englewood is where it's at.

So tiger=off is dead. You guys are really going all in on this terrible commenting format, huh? I read Denton's explanation of why Gawker did this. Could you now translate that into English (apparently somehow changing the format means that commenters are now reporting the news? Or something? I don't get it).

It was commissioned by the guy who was literally Hitler.

Any health claim that includes the word "toxins" (unless the claim is "you shouldn't eat poison") automatically gets the eyeroll from me.

LOL @ "binding to toxins"

"binds to toxins" is not actually a thing. It has never been a thing. It is a marketing buzz phrase designed to sell snake oil to unwary shoppers obsessed with "alternative" health.

Yeah. Sure. "Binds to toxins". Right. The "wellness" community might be doing it, but what about the science community?

I'm sure Shailene's been "studying" this stuff, but probably from things published by kooks and quacks.

Eating clay not only binds to the "toxins" (whatever the hell that means) but they also bind to the nutrients in your system. In other words, it's a stupid thing.

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Of course! It's called "being professional".