Those are other reasons to go with the PS4, yes, but I'm just talking about hardware, not policy.

Why are we still arguing about this?

Why the hell would you spend $100 more for the console with the camera, and not use it?

Well, if we swing this argument back towards the focus of e3 / console wars, you could argue that anyone who "can just unplug the camera", should just buy a PS4, since they wouldn't be utilising the peripheral that bumps the X1 price up by 100 bucks, in an otherwise almost architecturally identical console.

That optical out on the PS4 looks like it'd do the trick.

Anyone else get reminded of a reformed / less stoned Jim Breuer when they look at Phil Spencer?

It's only fitting, since Attack on Titan is awesome EVERYTIME/ANYWHERE.

Christian monk music.

Hm.

30% off, that's like the resale price of a Sandy/Ivy setup. Depending on your level of enthusiasm/ocd, that's totally worth the effort. Sales pretty much over now, anyway.

Someone with, say, an i5-2500k might look at this as a (justifiably) nice boost up to stay competitive through next-gen titles.

This is insane; wish my credit wasn't already lifting heavy today... this one is totally worth an impulse grab even if it took a month to sell my ivy-bridge/670 combo.

"Oh the times, they are a-changin'."

Ah, but Mr. Bob Dylan would like a word with you. =P

It's ok, anyone clicking this far into this thread probably should have though twice.

Well, proof somehow rising to the surface would be the big plot twist.

Oh yeah; Rhaegars legit son.... what the hells his name... but yeah, that one came out of nowhere.

If they decide it so, they are allowed to raise a bastard up to blood status; its ultimately up to the Lords and/or King in power. Look at Ramsay Bolton, and look at Stannis' offer to Jon before he become Lord Commander.

Your saving wayyyyy more than a "few bucks" in the longrun. Even a $1000 gaming PC makes up the difference in price from a console within a year, assuming your seriousness of the gaming hobby involves purchasing 15 or more games a year.

Bahahahahaha. I've been waiting for this for some weeks now.

Some pretty out-there reactions. Anyone who has read the books can tell you: A Song of Fire and Ice will tear your heart out, stomp on it, roll it around a bit in the dirt and stick it back in sideways; repeatedly. It's also extremely entertaining.