Damn that looks excellent. I would honestly be signing the paperwork at the dealership right this second if a manual transmission was possible.

I make a 12 hour round trip drive at least once a month, you better believe I’m taking something to drink and snack on along the way. 

Thx

Just learned that recently listening to Hardcore History!

OK, that was great

If you’re not towing too much weight, these NA V6's actually do pretty well.

People vote with their dollars, that’s why.

Holy shit that’s bad. We towed 3,000-ish lbs about 5 hours in an Ecoboost Flex and ended up getting like 14 mpg. 

That video is fucking fantastic

I personally am not a fan of sedans. That doesn’t mean I’m against cars, that means I prefer wagons and hatchbacks, as they pack in more space for the same footprint and similar weight. A sedan is a compromise. 

Yes, profit on the product, not on the company as a whole. I agree with you. 

Right, clearly they’re making money on each vehicle to reinvest, but overall they are not burdened with needing to make a profit at this point, whereas their competitors are. If they NEEDED to make a profit passed all their other expenses, the prices of their cars would NEED to go up. Or they would really have to…

Oh I absolutely understand it. Tesla is in a place to do this when their competitors are not. That’s the difference. I agree with what you’re saying here

Yeah, that’s pretty impressive, I agree. However, they’ve priced themselves below profitability, meaning they can sell a better product at the same price point as their competitors, which is an unsustainable advantage.

Oh I 100% agree, it is very impressive. But that company I used in my hypothetical up there would also have some pretty impressive numbers with their situation as well.

Oh I agree it is impressive, but it’s covering up the fact that it’s unsustainable. Cherry picking a few choice, impressive statistics doesn’t show the reality that the company would fold without continued investment being pumped into it. 

I agree, they are impressive in a lot of ways. However it’s a little too much prophet and not enough profit right now.

I mean, not exactly. They’re pretty careful about saying “sedan” specifically. A market that is on the decline, though still popular. I’d be curious to see how it ranks against as broad a category as all passenger cars.

Exactly. Pretty easy to tweak your metrics until you find an angle that favors your numbers... regardless of how much those numbers actually matter at the end of the day.