For real, and the Frodo, slow turn with pure and silent anguish in his eyes sells the shit out of that 'death'. All the LotR shots from that video reminded me how much I loved those movies and all the Hobbit clips reminded me that those movies existed. Since, you know, they've been largely forgettable so far.

That seems to be their biggest failing right there, they're just not as good as LotR. And too long. Had they been 3, 1.5 hr movies or 2, 2hr movies I think they'd work better. It's just too much content involving characters I still don't care that much about, even after two movies. LotR, I cared about all the…

Advertising the release of a trailer might have been a big deal 15 years ago but most people (myself at least) are gonna wait one day after The Hobbit comes out and just look the trailer up online.

That's the problem with buzz words, they're used to describe a wide range of things and they're super subjective. I'd call GotG 'grounded' and it worked great for them. Haven't followed the Constantine stuff, but I imagine the FF stuff is calling it 'grounded' with a very different meaning than how GotG approached it.

No. I wont believe it until I hear a studio audiences reaction to it. It's the only way I'll know how to feel.

I think that was the point I was trying to get at, now that you mention it., in it's time the Burton films were regarded as realistic but it's really very cheesy and over the top at points. I agree with your point on X-Men being an early cheese-free superhero flick, but it also didn't really embrace the original…

I could extend this scene to include anytime 'hacking' is shown in movies.

waitwaitwait.. Dr. Phil isn't the bastion of psychotherapy that I've been led to believe? I have so many lesson to unlearn..

That one always bothered me, every since I heard back when I was like 10 that there's no sound waves in a vacuum. I always thought, 'the people making this movie have to know that, I know it and I'm 10!' But it always shows up.

Just be happy Ian Ziering isn't the cynic you are..

The Schumacher movies pushed the camp all the way to 11, I'll give you that. But I just re-watched the Burton flicks cause they were on Netflix, and they're pretty damn cheesy. Batman Returns being a little darker in tone, but it was still pretty ridiculous, but even with the cheese the Burton movies made a somewhat…

I think at this point if it's a super hero movie it's expected to be more 'grounded'. If it's.. uh.. not grounded, then they can go ahead and throw some new buzz word in for it. But yeah, I think we've all come to expect every super hero movie to be based in 'reality'.

Lets give the bible a rest too, while we're at it.

Like father, like son?

I'd call the 60's, 70's era campy, the 90's is the middle, where they honored the camp and grounded it in a some what contemporary reality. I like the balance struck in Captain America 2 and GotG. They're not campy, but they're not taking themselves super seriously either.

As someone who remembers excitedly watching VHS raw copies of the Frieza saga, long before Funimation got it's hands on it, I still completely think the series should have ended with that season. It was all downhill from there.

ooooh, I'm telling mom!

Maybe. But but you're comparing a manager position to someone's dream job, first of all. We're also talking about a First, the first female led superhero flick directed by a female director isn't the same as the millionth female manager at some ladder climbing J-O-B. A certain type of person might thrive on that kind…